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Type I,II,III old K s

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From jda

It's odd on his YouTube site he names an Intermediate 1628g 20" a couple times; Think It could be an Intermediate.

The location of the star is higher above the crescent than it would be on the intermediate. So I think not. One thing I can tell you is that I was with him when he was buying old cymbals at the drum show. He brought out a 22" A. he had just gotten. It was in fact trans stamp, but he disagreed, only until somebody informed him that I was actually the originator of cymbal timeline. He didn't know me at that time, but he acquiesced after hearing that. I mention this only to point out that he's not exactly a trademark expert so I wouldn't put too much stock in his "intermediate" claim.

By the way, his official name is: Nick "paper-thin" Bruschi.

Posted on 5 years ago
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From jda

See what I'm getting at? Old Ks you can't pick them. They pick you. (Unless of course you dedicate your life to picking them...)

yes! Love this! And once they show up you have to learn who/what they are, how to play them, when to use them.

Posted on 5 years ago
#52
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I'm not an expert by any means, but I have researched for Ks from many years now. Had and have many of them, mostly Old Stamps.

I still think the one in the video is an Intermediate stamp.. The star is higher than in the types III, but in the Intermediate stamp the star is there. But anyway, the thing that makes me tell is an intermediate is because you can see (not really good, actually) the turkish writing, and definitely looks like the Intermediate stamp type.

I don't know what happen because I can't post pictures..I tried several times but the site doesn't allow me..

60s Gretsch RB 20/12/14 Burgundy Sparkle
60s Gretsch RB 18/12/14 Silver Glitter
60s Gretsch RB bass drum 16x12 Silver Glitter
60s Gretsch RB COB 4160
60s Rogers Holiday 14x5'5 in Steel Gray Ripple
50s Gretsch RB 14x5'5 MBP
39/41 Gretsch Gladstone 3-Way Tension 14x6'5 Dark Mahogany finish
38/42 Slingerland RK 14x6'5 Sparkling Green.
1936 Leedy Broadway Standard 14x5 WMP
Old Zildjian K's
Posted on 5 years ago
#53
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From jmoll

I don't know what happen because I can't post pictures..I tried several times but the site doesn't allow me..

Your pics must be too large for the site`s size restrictions...You will need to resize them to be able to post them...

I use this site:

http://www.shrinkpictures.com/

Cheers

1976 Ludwig Mach 4 Thermogloss 26-18-14-14sn
1978 Ludwig Stainless 22-22-18-16-14-13-12 c/w 6-8-10-12-13-14-15-16-18-20-22-24 concert toms
1975 Sonor Phonic Centennials Metallic Pewter 22-16-13-12-14sn (D506)
1971 Ludwig Classic Bowling Ball OBP 22-16-14-13
1960's Stewart Peacock Pearl 20-16-12-14sn
1980`s Ludwig Coliseum Piano Black 8x14 snare
1973 Rogers Superten 5x14 & 6.5x14 COS snares
1970`s John Grey Capri Aquamarine Sparkle 5x14 snare
1941 Ludwig & Ludwig Super 8x14 snare
Posted on 5 years ago
#54
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From jmoll

I'm not an expert by any means, but I have researched for Ks from many years now. Had and have many of them, mostly Old Stamps.I still think the one in the video is an Intermediate stamp.. The star is higher than in the types III, but in the Intermediate stamp the star is there. But anyway, the think that makes me tell is an intermediate is because you can see (not really good, actually) the turkish writing, and definitely looks like the Intermediate stamp type.I don't know what happen because I can't post pictures..I tried several times but the site doesn't allow me..

I don't understand what you mean, the guy who posted the videos is the same guy that named all the old K stamps. He pioneered naming K and A Zildjian stamps. Zildjian missed the boat.

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 5 years ago
#55
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I know who is Bill and I have a big respect for his work. But he is human and can have a little mistake, as I can or anybody else.

I'm only giving my opinion and tried to defend it with arguments, most of them based on his work.

I think this forum propose is a place to talk about experiences and opinions with these amazing instruments that we love. I'm not trying to annoy or disrespect anybody, I'm only giving my opinion.

60s Gretsch RB 20/12/14 Burgundy Sparkle
60s Gretsch RB 18/12/14 Silver Glitter
60s Gretsch RB bass drum 16x12 Silver Glitter
60s Gretsch RB COB 4160
60s Rogers Holiday 14x5'5 in Steel Gray Ripple
50s Gretsch RB 14x5'5 MBP
39/41 Gretsch Gladstone 3-Way Tension 14x6'5 Dark Mahogany finish
38/42 Slingerland RK 14x6'5 Sparkling Green.
1936 Leedy Broadway Standard 14x5 WMP
Old Zildjian K's
Posted on 5 years ago
#56
Posts: 6524 Threads: 37

From jmoll

I know who is Bill and I have a big respect for his work. But he is human and can have a little mistake, as I can or anybody else.I'm only giving my opinion and tried to defend it with arguments, most of them based on his work.I think this forum propose is a place to talk about experiences and opinions with these amazing instruments that we love. I'm not trying to annoy or disrespect anybody, I'm only giving my opinion.

You do have merit. He did admit he was wrong,....once.

He indicated the star was the given, I think.

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 5 years ago
#57
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It doesn't matter what it is. Besides a 1628g old K.

He plays a 1628g old K two other times on his you tube page

again that doesn't mean it's that one.

his official name is: Nick "paper-thin" Bruschi.

.................................................. ......Joe
Posted on 5 years ago
#58
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See if you can figure if it's the same one Oddball beginning with the first video..

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvF0h0a91Gw"]Zildjian K. (made in Istanbul) 20" thin crash/ride (1628 g) - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5438KWrdN3w"]K. Zildjian (made in Istanbul) 20" (1628 grams) with rivets - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n-E1v_1HAE"]Old K 20" intermediate stamp 1628 g - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8cO202jMno&t=194s"]K. Zildjian (made in Istanbul) 20" (1628 grams) - YouTube[/ame]

Sure had some killer Ks..

https://www.youtube.com/user/gattoniccol123/search?query=1628

.................................................. ......Joe
Posted on 5 years ago
#59
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From jda

See if you can figure if it's the same one Oddball beginning with the first video..Zildjian K. (made in Istanbul) 20" thin crash/ride (1628 g) - YouTubeK. Zildjian (made in Istanbul) 20" (1628 grams) with rivets - YouTubeOld K 20" intermediate stamp 1628 g - YouTubeK. Zildjian (made in Istanbul) 20" (1628 grams) - YouTubeSure had some killer Ks..https://www.youtube.com/user/gattoniccol123/search?query=1628

I think it is even though all 4 videos are played at different angles. it goes dead just as fast.

There's a edge crack in it.

To be sure one would need to see it's sound on a graph recorder. (like one of those EKG heart thingy's)

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 5 years ago
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