I've been using DrumDots on my snares. They are clear, reusable, and very functional in controlling ring:
In the past, drummers would remove the internal mufflers because they would often rattle loose and you would have to take the head off to replace them. Plus, it's an unnatural action - the head is pushed down by the stick while the muffler is pushing up against the head. Many found them to be too tone-altering.
Also, extra holes in a drum is a no-no!
Hope this helps - cheers!
Thanks everybody! I'll probably try the clip-on muffler first. I looked at a couple of the gel products suggested, but I can't get the " kids snot" image out of my head ;) .
what about zero rings? you can cut 'em to adjust ring...
My son uses those on his kit, but they're not adjustable. If I use my 63 Slingerland as an example: the 16" has a very long sustain. I've dialed in the tone control to barely touch... not enough to change pitch, but I can control the sustain and change it during a set. If we're playing a soft/slow song, I dial in a bit more. If we go fast/wild, I can dial less sustain.
My son uses those on his kit, but they're not adjustable. If I use my 63 Slingerland as an example: the 16" has a very long sustain. I've dialed in the tone control to barely touch... not enough to change pitch, but I can control the sustain and change it during a set. If we're playing a soft/slow song, I dial in a bit more. If we go fast/wild, I can dial less sustain.
Wow, a Slingerland floor tom with a long sustain? With those rounded bearing edges it almost seems impossible. I've had many Slingerland kits and not a one had a long sustain, even with coated Ambassadors. Are you sure the edges weren't re-cut?
One of the many reasons I love Ludwig and Slingerland is because of the warm, fat sound they produce.
My son uses those on his kit, but they're not adjustable. If I use my 63 Slingerland as an example: the 16" has a very long sustain. I've dialed in the tone control to barely touch... not enough to change pitch, but I can control the sustain and change it during a set. If we're playing a soft/slow song, I dial in a bit more. If we go fast/wild, I can dial less sustain.
This is what I have been saying for several decades. Dial in what you want or what you need if and when you want or need it. The rattle BS is just that. You can eliminate any rattle from an internal tone control with a little piece of string wrapped around the space between the offending parts of the apparatus. I suppose that, if your ears are offended by any little rattle from an internal tone control, you are probably driven mad from the presence of the springs in vintage drum lugs.
If you want to reduce some of the floor tom sustain, do the ole' leg trick.
Simply invert or turn your FT legs upside down so the straight part is in contact with the floor. This allows more energy to transfer directly to the floor rather than reflect in the shell. As you have three FT legs, you can adjust the amount of sustained removed or directed to the floor.
Here's a vid Don Lombardi of DW did on this very subject:
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeA7FFDQGng&t=3s"]Floor Tom Trick, Pt. 1 - YouTube[/ame]
Part 2 Features a new leg design:
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByF-uunS8kI&t=129s"]Floor Tom Trick, Pt. 2 - YouTube[/ame]
Here's a vid Don Lombardi of DW did on this very subject: Floor Tom Trick, Pt. 1 - YouTubePart 2 Features a new leg design: Floor Tom Trick, Pt. 2 - YouTube
I quoted myself here to provide links to the vids... It seems I can't play the vids from my posting above... so just click the links to see the vids on YT.
Wow, a Slingerland floor tom with a long sustain? With those rounded bearing edges it almost seems impossible. I've had many Slingerland kits and not a one had a long sustain, even with coated Ambassadors. Are you sure the edges weren't re-cut? One of the many reasons I love Ludwig and Slingerland is because of the warm, fat sound they produce.
The edges are original, and it has the warm, fat sound. When I say the Slingerland has a long sustain, it's relative of course. It's not as long as the DW's sustain (I love the Santana comparison above!) but on a medium firm hit I would guess the drum rings for about 2 seconds. I'm using Evans G1 heads (coated batter clear reso) both tuned to the same pitch and to the approximate pitch of the shell.
The edges are original, and it has the warm, fat sound. When I say the Slingerland has a long sustain, it's relative of course. It's not as long as the DW's sustain (I love the Santana comparison above!) but on a medium firm hit I would guess the drum rings for about 2 seconds. I'm using Evans G1 heads (coated batter clear reso) both tuned to the same pitch and to the approximate pitch of the shell.
I would say 2 seconds is probably normal, do you want it just to go away right after striking it? Try 2ply heads or tune the bottom head tighter. Using coated Emporers and cranking the bottom head up worked for Bonham on his Ludwig kit.
