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Bury a cymbal?

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From Super B

It seems I will have to bury the cymbal for a longer amount of time than what I was originally planning on doing.

That's what I mentioned quite a few posts ago. It will take some time for the alloy to go through any appreciable reactions. If you are

looking for a dramatic difference, you will be looking at several years. This is metal we are talking about.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From MastroSnare

The whole thing of burying cymbals does sound a bit wacked you gotta admit, but who knows.

[COLOR="DarkRed"]But no more so than a drummer who would actually keep a 22" AZCO swish for 25 years electricit :o[/COLOR]

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Posted on 14 years ago
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I've known a few drummers that have buried a cymbal, and all have had a very similar result: not enough of a difference in sound to make it worth it. The best way to mellow out the cymbal a little is to use something that will chemically alter the bronze, like vinegar, ketchup, salt, or any number of things that create a quick-fix patina.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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You know what will change the sound characteristics even more than burying them?

Answer: Playing them!

Seriously. Every time you hit a cymbal, there is a minute amount of "work hardening" that takes place.

I suppose burying a cymbal in soil that had a specific chemical composition -like acidic soil, for example, might affect the metal, too. But, who can wait that long to play a cymbal? I'd probably dig it up each week and check it -which would negate any potential effect. Then, I'm sure I would hypnotize myself into believing it made some kind of difference even though it probably wouldn't.

Changing the cymbals by actually playing them seems like a better idea to me. x-mas3

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Posted on 14 years ago
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From O-Lugs

You know what will change the sound characteristics even more than burying them? Answer: Playing them!Seriously. Every time you hit a cymbal, there is a minute amount of "work hardening" that takes place.I suppose burying a cymbal in soil that had a specific chemical composition -like acidic soil, for example, might affect the metal, too. But, who can wait that long to play a cymbal? I'd probably dig it up each week and check it -which would negate any potential effect. Then, I'm sure I would hypnotize myself into believing it made some kind of difference even though it probably wouldn't.Changing the cymbals by actually playing them seems like a better idea to me. x-mas3

Or......buying one that fits the music and recording techniques could work as well......:rolleyes:Hmmmm

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This thread to me is ludicrous....its like when guitarists ask if slashing the speaker cones on their amp with a razor blade will make the amp sound better...........ummmmmm.......NO! :rolleyes:

Posted on 14 years ago
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From mlvibes

I've known a few drummers that have buried a cymbal, and all have had a very similar result: not enough of a difference in sound to make it worth it. The best way to mellow out the cymbal a little is to use something that will chemically alter the bronze, like vinegar, ketchup, salt, or any number of things that create a quick-fix patina.

Sweet, this is the kind of info I was looking for, thanks. I still love all the different opinions. Oh, my overheads AKG C414s and Neumann TLM49 room mic. I just want to point out, my other rides were great. I'm still on the fence. Ugggg.

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My first kit, 1983 Ludwig Rocker? (it has the classic lugs and 4ply maple shell) 22,12,13,16 ..now in black oyster pearl. I still have it
Stop Sign USA Gretsch (80's), black nitron jasper shell 22,12,13,16
1995 Fibes Austin,Texas Badge (original owner) 22,10,12,16,18 in natural wood
USA 2007 Rosewood Gretsch 22,13,16 w/12inch 70's Rosewood Gretsch tom
Posted on 14 years ago
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From Ludwig-dude

This thread to me is ludicrous....its like when guitarists ask if slashing the speaker cones on their amp with a razor blade will make the amp sound better...........ummmmmm.......NO! :rolleyes:

Where else can I ask this question? If anyone tried it, it would be here. Didn't Dave Davis slash his speaker in his amp for the guitar part in "You Really Got Me"?

Rogers early Fullerton Blue Strata 22,13,16 w/brass Dynasonic
My first kit, 1983 Ludwig Rocker? (it has the classic lugs and 4ply maple shell) 22,12,13,16 ..now in black oyster pearl. I still have it
Stop Sign USA Gretsch (80's), black nitron jasper shell 22,12,13,16
1995 Fibes Austin,Texas Badge (original owner) 22,10,12,16,18 in natural wood
USA 2007 Rosewood Gretsch 22,13,16 w/12inch 70's Rosewood Gretsch tom
Posted on 14 years ago
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No. He used knitting needles for that. Seriously.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From mcjnic

No. He used knitting needles for that. Seriously.

Awesome!!!!

Rogers early Fullerton Blue Strata 22,13,16 w/brass Dynasonic
My first kit, 1983 Ludwig Rocker? (it has the classic lugs and 4ply maple shell) 22,12,13,16 ..now in black oyster pearl. I still have it
Stop Sign USA Gretsch (80's), black nitron jasper shell 22,12,13,16
1995 Fibes Austin,Texas Badge (original owner) 22,10,12,16,18 in natural wood
USA 2007 Rosewood Gretsch 22,13,16 w/12inch 70's Rosewood Gretsch tom
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