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I have the '71 Ludwig and '63 Slingerland sharing a room now, and I'm collecting more hardware for the Ludwig, rather than poach hardware off the Slingerland.

To start, VintageDrumBug also had a 70s Ludwig Atlas stand so I bought it when I bought the set. I don't like putting the weight of the toms on my bass, and the 70s Atlas and Hercules stands used the same 1" diameter as the tom mount. So voila, I have my toms off the bass, and a cymbal mount for my Z-bell.

I found a 70s Hercules snare stand at a local pawn shop. Yes, that's a DW snare on the set (for now, anyway.) I like wood snares over metal, but I'm considering an Acrolite or Supraphonic.

The rest of hardware though, is current generation Ludwig Atlas. And I have to admit, Ludwig hardware is better than I expected. I bought the "standard" hi-hat stand and boom cymbal stand, and the "pro" Atlas pedal, and I'm very pleased! They're easily as good as the DW hardware I use on my other sets.

The bass drum head is from vintagelogos.com. The cat logo is probably silly for a man in his 50s, but my granddaughter thinks it's cute.

Now I need vintage Zildjian cymbals... and the search continues!

Current sets
2018 Precision Drum (natural maple, 10/12/13/16/20)
Gretsch USA: 1958 3-ply (white pearl, 12/16/20), 1976 6-ply (12/13/16/22), 1998 6-ply (walnut, 8/10/12/14/16/20)
Slingerland: 1963 (BDP, 13/16/22), 1966 (Sparkle red, 13/16/20)
Posted on 5 years ago
#1
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Nice. I love that setup, 2 toms on a stand to the left of the kick, probably because of Phil Collins' setup for The Lamb tour, before the Premiere kit. Happy cymbal hunting.

Posted on 5 years ago
#2
Posts: 142 Threads: 8

Very cool Warren- that's how I've been setting up lately/ although much flatter on the toms- 2 to the left gives me room for the hats and puts the ride right in the 'sweet spot'!

Posted on 5 years ago
#3
Posts: 137 Threads: 25

When I was in high school, I started out with the toms mounted on the bass drums (double bass.) But there was a local drum teacher who had toured in the jazz era. He was a firm believer in keeping the toms off the bass for tone and for long-term roundness of the bass. It made sense to me, so I moved to the setup above.

If you look at the video of the Chicago 1970 concert in Tanglewood, Danny Seraphine plays a very similar setup.

Current sets
2018 Precision Drum (natural maple, 10/12/13/16/20)
Gretsch USA: 1958 3-ply (white pearl, 12/16/20), 1976 6-ply (12/13/16/22), 1998 6-ply (walnut, 8/10/12/14/16/20)
Slingerland: 1963 (BDP, 13/16/22), 1966 (Sparkle red, 13/16/20)
Posted on 5 years ago
#4
Posts: 273 Threads: 6

My '71 big beat is set up the same,but also with the 12+13 no so angled. Nice kits Warrenwood

Posted on 5 years ago
#5
Posts: 137 Threads: 25

True, I angle more than normal. I play matched grip, and with my height, the extra angle is more comfortable to play.

Also, the pawn shop/garage sale crawl this weekend did not turn up any cymbals, but I did find a B/W badge Arcolite Galaxy finish. Sounds very good, even with the original heads still on it and the price ($50) made it worth the purchase!

Current sets
2018 Precision Drum (natural maple, 10/12/13/16/20)
Gretsch USA: 1958 3-ply (white pearl, 12/16/20), 1976 6-ply (12/13/16/22), 1998 6-ply (walnut, 8/10/12/14/16/20)
Slingerland: 1963 (BDP, 13/16/22), 1966 (Sparkle red, 13/16/20)
Posted on 5 years ago
#6
Posts: 273 Threads: 6

Nice score on the Acrolite, Yes Sir

Posted on 5 years ago
#7
Posts: 5295 Threads: 226

They look fabulous together!!

Cheers

1976 Ludwig Mach 4 Thermogloss 26-18-14-14sn
1978 Ludwig Stainless 22-22-18-16-14-13-12 c/w 6-8-10-12-13-14-15-16-18-20-22-24 concert toms
1975 Sonor Phonic Centennials Metallic Pewter 22-16-13-12-14sn (D506)
1971 Ludwig Classic Bowling Ball OBP 22-16-14-13
1960's Stewart Peacock Pearl 20-16-12-14sn
1980`s Ludwig Coliseum Piano Black 8x14 snare
1973 Rogers Superten 5x14 & 6.5x14 COS snares
1970`s John Grey Capri Aquamarine Sparkle 5x14 snare
1941 Ludwig & Ludwig Super 8x14 snare
Posted on 4 years ago
#8
Posts: 2753 Threads: 132

Several years ago I acquired a Galaxy version B/W badge Acrolite snare drum for $50 just for the heck of it. I still prefer the sound of a wood shell snare drum to a metal snare drum. However, the Acro sounds very woody to me. it is my frequent go-to snare drum for my drum sets that do not have matching wood snare drums.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 4 years ago
#9
Posts: 771 Threads: 132

From Warrenwood

I have the '71 Ludwig and '63 Slingerland sharing a room now, and I'm collecting more hardware for the Ludwig, rather than poach hardware off the Slingerland.To start, VintageDrumBug also had a 70s Ludwig Atlas stand so I bought it when I bought the set. I don't like putting the weight of the toms on my bass, and the 70s Atlas and Hercules stands used the same 1" diameter as the tom mount. So voila, I have my toms off the bass, and a cymbal mount for my Z-bell. I found a 70s Hercules snare stand at a local pawn shop. Yes, that's a DW snare on the set (for now, anyway.) I like wood snares over metal, but I'm considering an Acrolite or Supraphonic.The rest of hardware though, is current generation Ludwig Atlas. And I have to admit, Ludwig hardware is better than I expected. I bought the "standard" hi-hat stand and boom cymbal stand, and the "pro" Atlas pedal, and I'm very pleased! They're easily as good as the DW hardware I use on my other sets.The bass drum head is from vintagelogos.com. The cat logo is probably silly for a man in his 50s, but my granddaughter thinks it's cute.Now I need vintage Zildjian cymbals... and the search continues!

Tough to see what is going on with the slingerland kit...Any pictures of that?

Keep fixing them up...
Posted on 4 years ago
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