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Experienced & veteran rehab guys-stripped lug troubles

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I have these Gretsch lugs which cleaned up and polished very nicely with a good shine, but now, I'm finding as I re-apply the lugs, the threads are literally turning into gray/black dust. WT*-what is that all about??? Well that ticks me off-even more parts to buy!! What do you veteran guys do with a situation like this? It's a true shame to waste the lugs...

Posted on 5 years ago
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No expert on Gretsch, but that did not happen on my mid/late 60's round badge kit. Brooklyn-to-Arkansas QC issue? Just guessing, I have no idea why.

I suppose you could try the JB Weld product like we use to rebuild Rogers bread and butter lugs, but I doubt it would be strong enough to survive a re-tap.

John/Levelpebble

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Posted on 5 years ago
#2
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Later lugs are of pot metal and over tightening strips them out

Maybe over size bolts and retap could help but once stripped not good

Good luck

Gary

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 5 years ago
#3
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From deansdrums59

I have these Gretsch lugs which cleaned up and polished very nicely with a good shine, but now, I'm finding as I re-apply the lugs, the threads are literally turning into gray/black dust. WT*-what is that all about??? Well that ticks me off-even more parts to buy!! What do you veteran guys do with a situation like this? It's a true shame to waste the lugs...

The good news is , that looks like a sleeve decomposing, the bad news is, I don't know where you are gonna get one.

I had this problem with a exhaust bolt one time. My solution was to stud it but you are not gonna be able to weld that pot metal. You gotta find a way to sleeve it.

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 5 years ago
#4
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Maybe you could plug it with Aluminum or Brass and re-tap......Whatever you do has to withstand the head tension.

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 5 years ago
#5
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were the heads on the screws- flat screwdriver round- or the evil hex. So hex evidently were self-tapping. The Rounds were just screws you could take in and out daily (for a 100 years)

What happens when you try reinserting them (creating a new thread). Ok. Have to go to your mechanic and ask about a product that creates 'new threads". It may be JB Weld but, once in and dried, I wonder if screw will not be frozen forever to lug...So I wonder; Dab some mixed JB into lug. Place Vaseline on Hex screw.

Screw in to lug. Let sit. To dry. After the appropriate hours or slightly earlier ; try removing (unscrewing) the screw (and hopefully) new threads will have been created.

Auto mechanics may have/recommend/ a different product (than JB Weld) for this.

.................................................. ......Joe
Posted on 5 years ago
#6
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Most likely replacements unless early ones , will be the same ,,,

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 5 years ago
#7
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Helicoil metal thread inserts. Not particularly cheap or easy but a quality repair and you should be able to use the original fasteners.

Posted on 5 years ago
#8
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As a list ditch effort...maybe you could use some Loctite.

Posted on 5 years ago
#9
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All the above are so hard for pit metal I’d rather buy some new ones

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 5 years ago
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