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Buddy Rich Slingerlands thread UPDATE

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From Tommyp

That pic is owned by my buddy David who is actually the owner of the VDF, hence the watermark. I have in my collection .. from the same photo shoot .. the actual catalog shot, but without BR in it with his way cool Nehru jacket. No watermarks as this is the actual Slingerland proof from the shoot! Anyway ... Buddy had at least two sets in 1968 .. possibly more .. as on one of his touring sets, the badge is on the far left panel! I'll attach the pic for you! This is all "drum detective" stuff, and a whole lot of fun to do! The "Artist" model snare drum is nicely shown in the pic as well!Tommyp

Is it an illusion or is that beater head hoop black with a white inlay and the reso hoop is white with a black inlay ?

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Posted on 5 years ago
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From OddBall

Is it an illusion or is that beater head hoop black with a white inlay and the reso hoop is white with a black inlay ?

Just an optical illusion! Both hoops are black with WMP inlay.

-Mark

Posted on 5 years ago
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Here is another example of a Slingerland kit from 1968 in Copenhagen with the ride cymbal holes filled.

The front BD shield is different on this kit as is the presence of a badge on the 13" tom.

Interestingly, at least from this angle, it looks like the splash cymbal wasnt moved.

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[IMG]http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127239&stc=1&d=1567116376[/IMG]

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Posted on 5 years ago
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From Tommyp

Buddy's sticks were NOT large actually. I have in my BR collection, a nice sampling of all the models he used between 1950 and 1982. I'll attach a pic. His stick was what I like to call a modified 7a towards a 5a, but with a little less diameter and length on the 5a. This includes the very cool Ludwig 15a Buddy Rich with it's very neat shoulder/tip design. After Buddy split Ludwig, they KEPT this model but re branded it as a 5a without Buddy's name! Also goes without saying that he used some other brands here and there too .. but .. I gravitate towards the models he used the most on a daily/nightly basis.Tommyp

Wow! That Ludwig pair is nice! I used to buy Regal Tip nylon tipped 7As and then take a pair of pliers and pull off the nylon tips to expose the wood stub...I did this to facilitate playing EXTREMELY quiet dinner club gigs for many years....worked great. But man I really would like to try out a pair like those Ludwigs in the pic. Those are cool!

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Posted on 5 years ago
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From OddBall

To answer the stick question going around, those look like big Maple, chewed and last about a gig or two.

I think your talking about the thread I started in the General Questions forum.

I mentioned there that I bought a Vic Firth BR pair of sticks, and they seemed awfully big, long and heavy to me, not to mention they are white. Even the tips are huge. They seemed much to large for any jazz playing, but then again, BR was normally driving a big band without mics, not working a trio. But still, the sticks I see him use in videos don't look that big...or white!

Posted on 5 years ago
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From JimmySticks

I think your talking about the thread I started in the General Questions forum. I mentioned there that I bought a Vic Firth BR pair of sticks, and they seemed awfully big, long and heavy to me, not to mention they are white. Even the tips are huge. They seemed much to large for any jazz playing, but then again, BR was normally driving a big band without mics, not working a trio. But still, the sticks I see him use in videos don't look that big...or white!

... and they weren’t! See my response in O-lugs post above! The VF BR stick is a ”commemorative” and not remotely close to what BR used throughout his most illustrative career! Have a look at the pic I put up of my BR stick collection. Those are the models he actually played. The VF, while certainly a neat stick, has very little to nothing to do with his actual model/size. 😎

Tommyp

Posted on 5 years ago
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... and here's the pic from my BR stick collection for a quick view/reference! ENJOY!!!

Tommyp

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Posted on 5 years ago
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From Tommyp

... and here's the pic from my BR stick collection for a quick view/reference! ENJOY!!!Tommyp

They don't look used by buddy, that's for sure. His are like mine, dented and chopped. But I'll love to have that top pair. (WFL) Are they Oak ?

In fact, today I swept up all the splinters from these Maple sticks my Nephew bought for me. Sometimes there's like a dusting to an inch on the floor before my lazy as does it.

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 5 years ago
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From OddBall

They don't look used by buddy, that's for sure. His are like mine, dented and chopped. But I'll love to have that top pair. (WFL) Are they Oak ? In fact, today I swept up all the splinters from these Maple sticks my Nephew bought for me. Sometimes there's like a dusting to an inch on the floor before my lazy as does it.

OB!

No, not used as in actually played by Buddy, but the actual MODELS he used! Each pair is NIB, with the WFL’s dating back to the 50’s. No .. not oak .. the WFL’s are hickory. The key is the size. He drove a big band with a relatively small stick, testimony to the fact that his technique was a big part of it. I saw him LIVE 5 times between 1972 and 1978, and can tell you he was just amazing. From a whisper to a roar. Just impeccable technique!

Tommyp

Posted on 5 years ago
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From Tommyp

OB!No, not used as in actually played by Buddy, but the actual MODELS he used! Each pair is NIB, with the WFL’s dating back to the 50’s. No .. not oak .. the WFL’s are hickory. The key is the size. He drove a big band with a relatively small stick, testimony to the fact that his technique was a big part of it. I saw him LIVE 5 times between 1972 and 1978, and can tell you he was just amazing. From a whisper to a roar. Just impeccable technique! Tommyp

I saw in a video where he broke a stick and it went all they way over to the horns, he flipped it over without missing a beat and played til he could grab another. When he hit hard, he hit hard.

People don't realize the difficulty and talent that guy had. Seen him hit his hand once too.

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 5 years ago
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