I took my Ludwig wmp kit to my rehearsal room today. I really wanted to use the rail mount, but it's the clock face kind and it kept slipping. I wound up having to put the tom on a snare stand. Is there a trick to keeping them from slipping? If not, I'll have to hunt down the later version with the teeth, I know they don't budge.
Anyway, here's the kit all dressed up with cymbals and stands.
In case there's any confusion, here's the type of rail that's on the kit and the later version that I need to find. If anyone has one fs or trade, please let me know, thanks.
I like to wrench it tight it works sometimes
Also check for smooth areas rough em up a little , small piece of leather anything to achieve original fit
There are two small pins that engage the holes on the clockface type of rail. One that holds the plate in place and then another that holds the band that wraps around the "L" arm in place. If either of those is missing or worn (I've had that on a couple of mine) then it's unlikely to hold the angle as it becomes just a friction fit. I'd take a look at those.
The ratchet style upright was a huge improvement over the older design. I upgrade to that on any set I plan to gig with.
I have an MIJ kit with a rail mount that is identical to the Ludwig clockface like you have, johnny. It kept slipping on me as well.
Not that you necessarily want to do this, but what I did on my MIJ was drill out the little "notch" or pin" that fits into the adjustment holes (which leaves a small hole) and I replaced it with a screw and lock nut, so the screw goes through both pieces (the inside piece that the notch was attached to , and the outside piece with the holes), so it's impossible for it to slip now. If you plan to replace/upgrade your clockface anyway, it may buy you some time until you find your upgrade.
I took my Ludwig wmp kit to my rehearsal room today. I really wanted to use the rail mount, but it's the clock face kind and it kept slipping. I wound up having to put the tom on a snare stand. Is there a trick to keeping them from slipping? If not, I'll have to hunt down the later version with the teeth, I know they don't budge. Anyway, here's the kit all dressed up with cymbals and stands.
I know this may sound like heresy but Steve Maxwell sells reproduction versions of Ludwig rail mounts in both two and four mounting screw versions. I have the four mounting screw version on my WMP Super Classic kit because, despite all my efforts, it was too difficult to adjust and maintain the adjustment with the original rail mount that came with the kit. Since you are using this as a gigging kit you may want to consider a new reproduction for its ease of use. If memory serves me the rail kit costs around $85, but that was two years ago and the price today may be higher now, assuming he's still offering it for sale.
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0FgPdgY4s0"]Steve Maxwell with Ludwig style rail consolette new reproduction - YouTube[/ame]
1971 Ludwig Rock Duo set in Blue Oyster Pearl
early Mapex dual bass drum Saturn kit
1964 Leedy Ray Mosca kit in Blue Sparkle
1959 Slingerland Super Gene Krupa snare in WMP
1968 Slingerland Hollywood Ace Snare Drum
1969 and 1977 Ludwig 400 Supraphonic snares
1965 Acrolite snare
Ludwig Coliseum snare
'68 Rogers Dynasonic snare
Pearl free floating piccolo snare
13" Mapex piccolo snare
6.5" deep Mapex steel snare
Mapex 6.5" Brass snare
I know there's more snares than that.
UFIP cymbals / Avedis Zildjians
Ghost pedals or Tama King Beats
you kids get off my lawn
I have seen on a forum that there may be "fitment issues" with Maxwell's rails on some brands when trying to reuse the stock mounting holes. Recommend confirming hole diameter and spacing before ordering one. A vintage replacement should be easy to find.
I think the problem I have with mine is that it has a wing type screw to tighten it. I have an original Ludwig hex wrench, but it does no good with the wing. I've tried using plyers to tighten it up, but it still slips.
Crescent wrench works
Don’t break it
