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1968 Ludwig accent appraisal

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So I've been the fortunate owner of a 1968 Ludwig STANDARD (was way too tired to post this) set in red sparkle for 12 years, and they've been kept in a basement for their life with me and before me.

I am considering selling them as I don't play often anymore (definitely not at the skill level they deserve).

I've heard a few estimates, and some of them were blatant lowballs hiding behind very excited eyes. They are slightly modified: a high Tom mount has been added to the top of the kick drum, and the ride mount (that was on the kick) was removed before I came across them.

They are mint AF, and even feature the original resonant head on the floor Tom. Cymbals and cymbal hardware are nothing special, all semi modern pieces.

What do you guys think? What could they sell for? I still play from time to time, but am more on the songwriting/ production/ recording spectrum right now ( would people want them for recording sessions?).

If they would only sell for 1000$ CAD I would probably keep them, if more I could be convinced to sell.

Either way, I'm going to re-skin and clean them up.

Posted on 5 years ago
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That's a Ludwig Standard kit.

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As mentioned those are Ludwig Standards which was a less expensive line Ludwig produced from approx. 1968-1972ish. They were the same 3 ply shells as the regular Ludwigs of the era but used less expensive metal parts and thinner wraps to hold the price down and try to compete with the growing number of imported drums coming in from the far east. Looks like you have 13/16/22 with a matching snare which was the S-320 outfit (although the cataloged set had a metal snare drum).

For decades you could buy these sets used for very little money as they were thought of as second tier Ludwigs. In recent years, with the advent of internet forums and the realization that they represented a less expensive way to get the Ludwig "3-ply" sound, they have gone up in value, although for the most part they are still not worth as much as their Super Classic brethren. The unique Strata finishes seem to be the most popular Standards but all the wraps they used were unique to the Standard line and not available on other Ludwigs. The "Mist" sparkles like on your drums used a finer grain of sparkle and were a bit thinner than the standard sparkle wraps.

My guess is these would be worth around $800 US in today's market with maybe a range up or down of $200 ($600-$1000). Ten years ago they would have been worth maybe $350-400 and ten years before that you'd have been lucky to get half that amount so they are appreciating with time.

There is a Ludwig Standard facebook group that you might want to check into. I have two Standard sets myself (one in Gold Strata and one in Lemon, both 12/14/16/20 with matching snares) so I know what great drums they can be.

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Posted on 5 years ago
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From K.O.

Looks like you have 13/16/22 with a matching snare which was the S-320 outfit (although the cataloged set had a metal snare drum).

I thought from looking at the shot of the drums piled up (which jonnyringo very kindly turned right side up) that the snare drum (14") is the same diameter as the floor tom (14") which would put the other tom at 12". If that's possible would it be a 12/14/20 with matching snare? So an S-300?

[img]http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/images/ludwig_sets/standard/1968-4.jpg[/img]

Or am I seeing it wrong? I'll leave it to your experience on prices for these as I've never recorded sales prices for any of the Standard series.

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From zenstat

I thought from looking at the shot of the drums piled up (which jonnyringo very kindly turned right side up) that the snare drum (14") is the same diameter as the floor tom (14") which would put the other tom at 12". If that's possible would it be a 12/14/20 with matching snare? So an S-300? [img]http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/images/ludwig_sets/standard/1968-4.jpg[/img]Or am I seeing it wrong? I'll leave it to your experience on prices for these as I've never recorded sales prices for any of the Standard series.

I think I see 10 lugs on the bass drum which would indicate it's a 22. Although it could still be 12/14/22 if someone special ordered such a set.

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As soon as you modify any parts take 50%off kit

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
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Interesting thread about the Standard sets. Mine is a '69 Blue Strata 12/16/20 with a '67 Acrolite snare. Bought the set in 1977 for $100, (from the ex-wife).:cool:

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From K.O.

As mentioned those are Ludwig Standards which was a less expensive line Ludwig produced from approx. 1968-1972ish. They were the same 3 ply shells as the regular Ludwigs of the era but used less expensive metal parts and thinner wraps to hold the price down and try to compete with the growing number of imported drums coming in from the far east. Looks like you have 13/16/22 with a matching snare which was the S-320 outfit (although the cataloged set had a metal snare drum). For decades you could buy these sets used for very little money as they were thought of as second tier Ludwigs. In recent years, with the advent of internet forums and the realization that they represented a less expensive way to get the Ludwig "3-ply" sound, they have gone up in value, although for the most part they are still not worth as much as their Super Classic brethren. The unique Strata finishes seem to be the most popular Standards but all the wraps they used were unique to the Standard line and not available on other Ludwigs. The "Mist" sparkles like on your drums used a finer grain of sparkle and were a bit thinner than the standard sparkle wraps.My guess is these would be worth around $800 US in today's market with maybe a range up or down of $200 ($600-$1000). Ten years ago they would have been worth maybe $350-400 and ten years before that you'd have been lucky to get half that amount so they are appreciating with time.There is a Ludwig Standard facebook group that you might want to check into. I have two Standard sets myself (one in Gold Strata and one in Lemon, both 12/14/16/20 with matching snares) so I know what great drums they can be.

well said sir!!

I freaking LOVE my little downbeat set up!

I have a very early pristine set from 68.

One day I will sell this kit so hopefully they keep increasing in value like you said.

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From jaghog

as soon as you modify any parts take 50%off kit

yes indeed!!

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From jaghog

As soon as you modify any parts take 50%off kit

All the parts I can see look to be correct to one of those sets. The missing cymbal mount bracket is no big deal as you'd just need to bolt on a correct replacement bracket. I think the OP thinks the tom mount has been replaced because it isn't a rail. or whatever an Accent might have had on it, but it does appear to be the correct base plate for a Standard which used a 5/8ths inch diameter center post for both the single and double tom mount.

I'd be interested to know how he came to think they were Accents when each drum should have a badge on it that says "Ludwig Standard"...drums which, of course, are HIGHLY preferable to anything that ever wore an "Accent" badge.

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