I didn't start this thread, but I'm pretty sure the question of what drums will be collectable was meant to go about 50 years in the future, not centuries.
Future Vintage?
Lol Johnny you make me laugh
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp
once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Thanks Jaghog, I do agree with you on the Ringo anology and that whole era of drums. The 60's seem to be the most popular decade for drum collectors and I doubt that will end any time soon.
Thanks Jaghog, I do agree with you on the Ringo anology and that whole era of drums. The 60's seem to be the most popular decade for drum collectors and I doubt that will end any time soon.
Well, it will end if there is limited availability in the future. And, who can say with any accuracy what might be valued in the future. If I had been able to see into the future and knew what would be collectible and what would not I would have held on to countless items, not just related to drumming. My comic books, toys, baseball cards etc. from the 50s would have been saved and lovingly stored. I would have held on to my 1964 set of Ludwig drums and found a place outside my apartment to store them. I would not have sold my 1950s rosewood wood blocks or my original Buck Rogers snare stand, or a thousand other items that unbeknownst to me back then would have value 50 years later.
BosLover
Why would there be a limited availability of 60's kits in the future and if there are less, wouldn't that make them more valuable and collectable?
I just don't see that happening, there's been almost 6 decades since and that era still seems to be the most desireable.
Thanks Jaghog, I do agree with you on the Ringo anology and that whole era of drums. The 60's seem to be the most popular decade for drum collectors and I doubt that will end any time soon.
Well, it will end if there is limited availability in the future. And, who can say with any accuracy what might be valued in the future. If I had been able to see into the future and knew what would be collectible and what would not I would have held on to countless items, not just related to drumming. My comic books, toys, baseball cards etc. from the 50s would have been saved and lovingly stored. I would have held on to my 1964 set of Ludwig drums and found a place outside my apartment to store them. I would not have sold my 1950s rosewood wood blocks or my original Buck Rogers snare stand, or a thousand other items that unbeknownst to me back then would have value 50 years later.
Why would there be a limited availability of 60's kits in the future and if there are less, wouldn't that make them more valuable and collectable? I just don't see that happening, there's been almost 6 decades since and that era still seems to be the most desireable.
Most popular era for collecting does not equal most expensive era for purchase. Once the price per kit passes a certain level then "most popular era for collecting" moves somewhere else because most collectors can't afford them. Think about the popularity of collecting Stradivarius violins. Violin Prices are such that these are not something the general populace collect.
Limited availability simply means that the number which exist does not go up. So it is a truism that 60s kits have limited availability. How that plays out in price to purchase a 60s kit depends on the relationship between supply and demand (if you believe micro economic pricing models).
You guys are getting too technical for me.D' Drummer
Future collectables will be what kids want now, but either can't afford or look at as disposable. Also, I think the whole collectable and antique market was solely driven by Baby Boomers and picked up by the Gen Xer's. Who knows if the Millennials will follow. So far, they seem to be less inclined to do so.
As mentioned above by BosLover, toys, baseball cards, etc. just weren't kept because they were just things. And when the 70's rolled around, and newer, sturdier hardware was developed, those old Ludwig's, Slingerland's, & Gretsch's were just that. Old. The newer offerings out of Japan were taking over.
About 30 years ago, I got into vintage drums. I had a Pearl Export and was looking at getting a Yamaha Maple Custom Absolute. I just couldn't afford them.
But the dealer had a set of mid-60's Black Diamond Pearl Slingerlands. It was love at first sight. And they sounds fabulous.
Another thing to look at is guys trying to get what they had when they were kids. Going back to when I got interested in vintage drums, you couldn't give away an old Pearl or Tama (Star) "stencil" kit. "Asian Firewood" was what everyone called them.
Well, 30 years on and now some of those old kits are in demand. Not to the extent that the American brands are, but there are collectors that look for them specifically. A lot of the time, it's because it was like their very first set of drums.
So that may influence what gets collected in the future, the things you couldn't have or getting what you had and did away with.
Steve
I suppose a lot of you guys don't deal too much with the younger generation. All the cool, hip young guys want vintage kits, mainly 60's era gear. I talk with these guys all the time, most of them are Austin drummers playing original music. They don't want Pearl, Tama or Yamaha. They want American made drums from the most influential era in music.
I suppose a lot of you guys don't deal too much with the younger generation. All the cool, hip young guys want vintage kits, mainly 60's era gear. I talk with these guys all the time, most of them are Austin drummers playing original music. They don't want Pearl, Tama or Yamaha. They want American made drums from the most influential era in music.
That’s is cool to know Johnny thanx but do they covet them like we do ?
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp
once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
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