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Rogers Fullerton Green Label

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From FFR428

Mike I think your right on the faded ink. This label was posted on FB. Brown ink faded to green. I've never seen ink fade like this. But here it is!

I don't think that's what happened here, it's looks like green ink, no fade.

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Posted on 6 years ago
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From johnnyringo

I don't think that's what happened here, it's looks like green ink, no fade.

Yes that could very well be. But it confirms Mikes explanation that some are faded. Still collecting facts and info. Like you said it'll likely take some time.

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 6 years ago
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It seams to me if the brown labels could turn to green there would be a lot more around, much like a wrap that's faded.

Posted on 6 years ago
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I think I've solved the "Mystery of the Green Fullerton Label" once and for all. I have saved images of many Rogers labels, and after sorting through them, I came across an image of a label from the same Fullerton period/sequence that all but proves my "faded ink" theory. Another green Fullerton label but with a twist...

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Note that this label also appears green but where the washer sat for years over the label, the original unexposed ink is still sharp and brown. The exposed ink has turned green. One component, or color, in the brown ink was obviously less stable than the green component and faded with exposure to UV light (Glenn could explain this better). Why don't we see more green labels? Probably because most labels are sealed away from light for most of their lives.

Case closed?

Mike

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Posted on 6 years ago
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From mchair303

I think I've solved the "Mystery of the Green Fullerton Label" once and for all. I have saved images of many Rogers labels, and after sorting through them, I came across an image of a label from the same Fullerton period/sequence that all but proves my "faded ink" theory. Another green Fullerton label but with a twist...[Attachment: 121342]Note that this label also appears green but where the washer sat for years over the label, the original unexposed ink is still sharp and brown. The exposed ink has turned green. One component, or color, in the brown ink was obviously less stable than the green component and faded with exposure to UV light (Glenn could explain this better). Why don't we see more green labels? Probably because most labels are sealed away from light for most of their lives.Case closed?Mike

Hey Mike!

Looks like indisputable evidence to me! I agree... case closed!

-Mark

Posted on 6 years ago
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I agree great work Mike!

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 6 years ago
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THIS is why we pay Mike the big bucks around here. Excellent proof.

As an aside, I predict we will see a new cottage industry/practice in vintage drum restorations - exposing just your inner shells to sunlight - 'Look, the rare Fullerton Green Ink Label!!' ;^0

-john

From mchair303

I think I've solved the "Mystery of the Green Fullerton Label" once and for all. I have saved images of many Rogers labels, and after sorting through them, I came across an image of a label from the same Fullerton period/sequence that all but proves my "faded ink" theory. Another green Fullerton label but with a twist...[Attachment: 121342]Note that this label also appears green but where the washer sat for years over the label, the original unexposed ink is still sharp and brown. The exposed ink has turned green. One component, or color, in the brown ink was obviously less stable than the green component and faded with exposure to UV light (Glenn could explain this better). Why don't we see more green labels? Probably because most labels are sealed away from light for most of their lives.Case closed?Mike

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Posted on 6 years ago
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That's a great theory, but here's another twist. Couldn't that brown section be also rust from the washer? There are small curves on either side with the same brown, obviously from the round washer.Hmmmm

Notice the difference?

Posted on 6 years ago
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From johnnyringo

That's a great theory, but here's another twist. Couldn't that brown section be also rust from the washer? There are small curves on either side with the same brown, obviously from the round washer.HmmmmNotice the difference?

What would you like us to tell you? The brown has simply faded to green. Just seems like you have a need to believe that this is some rare label.

-Mark

Posted on 6 years ago
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I merely pointed out that there could be another reason that caused the ink to turn brown in the picture you posted.

Posted on 6 years ago
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