Hey Dan Thanks ! I think I got it. However, I have a Rogers - R360 model snare in what would be considered blue Strata? The additional twist is. The person that sold it to me told me it was a 1960's Rogers R360 in Blue Ripple . . . :confused:Here's the picture.
That is Sky Blue Ripple. The USA color was the same.
Hey Dan Thanks ! I think I got it. However, I have a Rogers - R360 model snare in what would be considered blue Strata? The additional twist is. The person that sold it to me told me it was a 1960's Rogers R360 in Blue Ripple . . . :confused:Here's the picture.
That looks like Ripple to me, not Strata...but I'm not sure the R360 series got the same wraps that Rogers USA drums had.
Edit: never mind, didn't see Jack's post. I was half-right. :)
Hey Dan Thanks ! I think I got it. However, I have a Rogers - R360 model snare in what would be considered blue Strata? The additional twist is. The person that sold it to me told me it was a 1960's Rogers R360 in Blue Ripple . . . :confused:Here's the picture.
The wrap on your snare IS, in fact, Blue Ripple. Rogers offered both a blue ripple and red ripple on their R360 model drums.
Rogers used both strata and onyx wraps. See attached from the 1967-68 catalog. Second row are the onyx finishes and fourth row are the strata finishes. Initial strata finishes that show up on 68 drums were somewhat different than the oysters used by Ludwig, but eventually were very close to the same. The second picture shows the earlier black strata.
Dan,
I didn't realize Rogers Black Strata changed so much over time. The only example of Black Strata in my inventory is this sole 10x14 (sitting on top OBP just for comparison). My Black Strata is quite different from yours. I'll have to check the label, but I think mine is a Fullerton.
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Mike
Dan,I didn't realize Rogers Black Strata changed so much over time. The only example of Black Strata in my inventory is this sole 10x14 (sitting on top OBP just for comparison). My Black Strata is quite different from yours. I'll have to check the label, but I think mine is a Fullerton. [Attachment: 108933]Mike
I was looking for something else using the search engine on this site and noticed this photo you put up this spring Mike. It looks as if the wraps are very similar in their basic pattern, but that the Rogers is more faded. It does look like a Fullerton era Rogers drum.
The strata, onyx, and ripple sheets of wrap for the various drum companies could differ greatly from one batch to the next batch. I've read and heard about the processes of manufacturing that create the random patterns in blocks of material that get sliced in to the sheets used for the drum wrap. The main reason I traded away my Rogers Pink Strata drum set is that the set seems to be pieced together from drums with wraps that came from different batches. I may have some OCD about certain things. It doesn't bother me that one tom in my mid 1960's Walberg & Auge Gold Sparkle (glass glitter?) is a little bit faded compared to the other drums. I also doesn't bother me that the snare drums to a couple of my other drum sets are "close" matches to the rest of the drums in the set. However, I was bothered by the differences in the wrap patterns of the four drums in the Pink Strata Rogers set.
I have a player's grade black strata rewrap Rogers set, Fullerton era, 13/16/22. They sound and look great. The previous owner got all the details right, except he installed a modern Ludwig rack tom holder, which has been removed.
Speaking of the Blue Ripple finish,
I helped a friend a few years ago restore a an R-360 kit. The Blue Ripple had evenly faded to a mint green ripple. Looks cool as heck! I was just at her house and saw that kit again today. Rogers should've offered that finish. Walopus....................might be a good one to consider!
The photos were from an old photobucket account I don't use anymore. The one showing the lug removed can't be displayed bigger for some reason, but you can clearly see that it was originally blue under the lug.
After starting this thread about 10 months ago, I have (again) acquired a Rogers set in strata finish. Some of you may have seen it on Reverb over the weekend. I was able to get a good price on it through the offer system. Some might have called it a low ball offer considering how soon I submitted it after the set appeared, but it worked for them and for me. I'll follow up when I expect to have it first-hand in April. It's one of the earlier strata patterns as best I can determine. The set dates pretty much to late 1967 (speckled paint -88xxx or so), and was said to have been ordered by the original owner (that's according to information from a prior drum seller who had it a year ago).
I have a nice 7-line Dynasonic and an equally nice COB PowerTone that could match up to it date-wise. Looking forward to seeing it and working through the details of getting it back into the best condition I can. It's a typical "Buddy Rich Headliner" from that era with a 20, 12, 16 configuration. These and the other outfits don't show up very often in strata finish for some reason. I keep wondering where all the strata from '67-68 has disappeared to.
My hunch is that people who wanted drums with that type of wrap really wanted to emulate Ringo so much that they just bought Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl drums. There are relatively plenty of Black Diamond Pearl Rogers drum sets from that period. My hunch also tells me that Black Strata wrapped Rogers drum sets from that same era were not plentiful to begin with. Conversely, there were plenty of red sparkle Rogers Dave Clark wannabe five piece drum sets.
