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[color=blue]16" K type IIIa weighing 1068 gms.[/color]
The front side was buffed.
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The back side is au naturale.
Soundfile demonstration:
Same vintage as the 18"
It sounds like it will complement the 18" - has a pretty good alt ride sound although I was getting a minor third interval a lot and wasn't crazy about that... although judging a cymbal, or really anything "outside of a song" is always slightly bonkers.
The 18" K was the gem in this bunch to me, but then you knew that.
It goes along with what I've found my preference is for - small cymbals and huge bass drums. I've been using a 16" and 17 1/2" for this last while... the sound doesn't get crazy. With a 26" calf kick. Plus one of my idols is Sonny Greer.
BTW what are you recording the soundfiles with, and what sticks?
thanx
It goes along with what I've found my preference is for - small cymbals and huge bass drums. I've been using a 16" and 17 1/2" for this last while... the sound doesn't get crazy. With a 26" calf kick. Plus one of my idols is Sonny Greer.
I have one of those too. And original calf's heads on the others as well. Ludwig & Ludwig early 1940;s WMP. I love that sound. But I can't imagine what a calf replacement for that 26" would cost to replace today. Probably more than the drum itself.
BTW what are you recording the soundfiles with, and what sticks?thanx
I'm using Vic Firth AJ6's. They sound great on old K's and would be perfect for trio work.
I lucked out on a 26" Slingerland calf for it for something like $60... I think that's what I paid for the Slingerland kick (70's)... I'll bet your kick is unfrickenbereevable.
What about the recording, in specific the mics and setup?
I lucked out on a 26" Slingerland calf for it for something like $60... I think that's what I paid for the Slingerland kick (70's)... I'll bet your kick is unfrickenbereevable.What about the recording, in specific the mics and setup?
Nothing at all special. One garbage mic that came with my computer that says "Creative" on it. It's on a shelf about 1-1/2 ft. above where I play the cymbal. I balance the cymbal on the finger of one hand and play it with the other.
Despite that it seems to work out pretty well anyway.
Okay guys,
I have to confess my ignorance about "the show". Drumaholic got some sweet stuff, and I'd love to go to a show where there are lots of old cymbals to try out.
Where is this show?
When does it take place?
How long does it last?
Etc., etc.
Thanks guys,
Branson
Nothing at all special. One garbage mic that came with my computer that says "Creative" on it. It's on a shelf about 1-1/2 ft. above where I play the cymbal. I balance the cymbal on the finger of one hand and play it with the other.Despite that it seems to work out pretty well anyway.
Well that just shows to go ya how important the source is... if the source is outstanding it will persevere through not the best path and still shine... 'cause I really thought the 18" was a special one.
But then the mic does say "creative" on it, so maybe that's part of it too...
Well that just shows to go ya how important the source is... if the source is outstanding it will persevere through not the best path and still shine... 'cause I really thought the 18" was a special one.But then the mic does say "creative" on it, so maybe that's part of it too...
One thing I can say is that these cymbals all sound even better in person as you may have guessed. But still these soundfiles all sound pretty close the actual sound of the cymbals as I hear them. It's just that more of the tonal colors come through in person, sometimes more or less depending on the cymbal.
One thing I can say is that these cymbals all sound even better in person as you may have guessed. But stil theses soundfiles sound pretty close the actual sound. It's just that more of the tonal colors come through in person, sometimes more or less depending on the cymbal.
That's so true.
It seems impossible with technology so far to record a cymbal "correctly". I've never heard a cymbal recorded that sounded the same as the cymbal. And how would you play it back?
They usually quote the human hearing as being 20Hz to 20KHz, but there were some studies that said more than 1/2 of a cymbal's sound energy was over 100KHz! And there have been other studies that suggest that while we cannot hear that high, vibrations over 100KHz have a big affect on how we emotionally perceive the sound - how it makes us feel.
That's exactly why I never purchase cymbals I can't lick first. I need to know if it's a tasty pie or if it has a bitterness to it.
