Now that's what i joined this site for, great examples of fine cymbals!Drumaholic, these are the types of sounds i'm looking for and as Branson asked earlier in this thread what show are you refering to?Also i see trans stamp A's on ebay pretty often, what's a fair price for a 20 ride? BTW i was watching one and recently ended (i forgot about it), an 18" sizzle (ride?) ended at $68.00+s/h. So i guess the deals are still out there!Gary.