I have a 14x10 I,d never use and am getting it cut down to a snare drum. The drum is mint but it wont be 100% original when done, BUT it doesn,t matter, they stay with me.
Work is being done by pros I trust, so I ask...will it sound like a REAL Phonic or just a converted tom?...
I (mistakenly) bought what I thought was a "player grade" Phonic 4x14 snare that turned out to have been made from a 10x14 tom (this I figured out upon realizing that the lugs were too long for the shell at the arm on the throw would get jammed in the hoop, and the fact that such was never cataloged). Changing the throw (from Sonor to a Gibraltar that doesn't get jammed in the hoop), the top hoop (from stick to an S-Hoop), heads, and snares (beat up Sonors to PureSound) in the hopes of getting this thing to sound better than "meh" have so far been fruitless.
Not trying to infer that your results will be the same as mine, just adding in my experience. Thick shell snares are usually loud and have a lot of punch. However, this one, while sounding good with the snares off, sounds too "snare-ee" with them on, and though the conversion looks to have been professionally done (which is how I was tricked in the first place), I'm wondering whether the snare beds are too narrow/too shallow?
you could remove some snare from the the wirestrand. for example the centre 4 or 6. Did that once, worked well.
I (mistakenly) bought what I thought was a "player grade" Phonic 4x14 snare that turned out to have been made from a 10x14 tom (this I figured out upon realizing that the lugs were too long for the shell at the arm on the throw would get jammed in the hoop, and the fact that such was never cataloged). Changing the throw (from Sonor to a Gibraltar that doesn't get jammed in the hoop), the top hoop (from stick to an S-Hoop), heads, and snares (beat up Sonors to PureSound) in the hopes of getting this thing to sound better than "meh" have so far been fruitless. Not trying to infer that your results will be the same as mine, just adding in my experience. Thick shell snares are usually loud and have a lot of punch. However, this one, while sounding good with the snares off, sounds too "snare-ee" with them on, and though the conversion looks to have been professionally done (which is how I was tricked in the first place), I'm wondering whether the snare beds are too narrow/too shallow?
Hi Frankie,
Have you checked that the 1) drum and hoops are in round, 2) the bearing edges were done properly and 3) the snare beds are correct?
Barry
Hi Frankie,Have you checked that the 1) drum and hoops are in round, 2) the bearing edges were done properly and 3) the snare beds are correct? Barry
Yes, the hoops are in round, and the edges are flat and true. The beds are quite shallow, but no less than other wood-shell snares I have. I think the issue may be width. Perhaps a 16 strand snare would work better than the 24 strand that's on there.
OK...SO..If you had a 14x10 and knowing what you now know, would you go through the trouble and expense to create your own Phonic snare drum to match your kit??
A factory 4" deep sonor snare would come with offset lugs which helps with not running out of depth for the hoops. If I wanted to do a conversion I would cut the shell deeper if possible.
I have seen guys just cut snare beds on the 14x10 and install throw and butt, might be an option with a little less work involved.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
Gary
gsonor...thx for the info on the off set lugs, makes perfect sense. I would cut the shell to as close to 6" for my liking. A 10" deep snare is out of the question though, in fact an 8"er would be pushing it as well.
Wayne, do you have lugs for the snare yet? You could get these if you want to do an accurate copy.
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You then would need the modern sonor slotted which is not the same as the original sonor slotted, the threads are standard size now and you can get either square or slotted to fit. Threads on the modern sonor lug is 12-24 which the above lug uses.
Like anything sonor it's going to be costly!
Gary
