I thought pretty much all the old drums had wraps as opposed to a painted finish? Ok.... so how can i tell if the drum ever had a wrap on it or what the original paint was?

Like I said in a previous post....

There is a sloppy coat of white, over a blue, and then something white underneath it. I don't THINK the blue is original because there are blue "splatters" on the inside of the shell. Like a sloppy paint job to change the color or something.

Can I measure the diameter to determine if there was ever a wrap on it before?

I added some more pictures. Maybe I can get some more insight as to the best way to approach this....

This is the drum with the hardware removed and the paper taken off.

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Here is a close up of the bolts and a metal plate holding the reinforcing rings together. I started to loosen a nut, and the hoop did start to come undone. Maybe I should leave it? Should I take it to a drum shop to have it re-glued w/ some clamps?

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I took off the outer wooden hoops that were not original. You can see the blue paint underneath. Also, it looks like the heads of the bolts were counter sunk and maybe some wood putty was used to fill it in.. unless it's just paint in there. You can kind of see in this pic where I sanded a little section of the drum shell. The layers are white, blue, then some kind of white.

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This pic shows where the plys meet on the outside of the drum, This makes me think that there was originally a wrap?

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In his pic, you can see two dark stains around two holes that run perpendicular to the lug holes. I ASSUME this was for a tom mount/bar?

To the left of those two holes, there is another holes that has blue paint around it. Was this hole original?

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In this pic, there is another smaller hole, in between the rows for the lugs... I ASSUME tis was for a badge or a breathe hole?

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http://picasaweb.google.com/brwells/OldDrum#

Ok...these older drums had the wrap attached to the outter ply of wood before they were bent into a drum. If you remove some of the paint on the edge of the overlap you may be able to see the original wrap if there was one.

I'm wondering on a weird hunch if the drum was not "cut down" in size which is why it has the Frankenstein seam on it. What does the diameter measure?

Forgot to post the diameter....

It's a bit under 22"..... it measures 21 7/8".

Yeppers...I think it's been "modified" a bit.

Ok, 21 7/8, that will take a modern head as is, if you wrap it, you will have to go a vintage head (Aquarian American Vintage) because that will push the diameter to 22".

We need Jaye to come along and give some input on this entire subject.

JAYE WHERE ARE YOU!!!

So you think it was a larger drum at one time, and then altered to a smaller size? Frakendrum.... i like it. I think you might be right.... here is why, In the upclose pic of the bolts, the seam where the two ends of the reinforcing ring meet, it looks like a "flat" connection. The ends just butt up against each other instead of some tapered form. I would think, that the plys (as well as the hoops) are done in layers instead of one big seam. yeah?

Was 21 7/8" a common size?

Also, I got some Jasco to strip it down tomorrow.

I don't think a 22 was offered when Frankendrum was made..

Yes, overlaps, no straight seams.

Just a quick update..... WIP....

I got MOST of the paint off. There are still some spots where the blue paint has kinda stained the wood. I can't seem to get it off. ESPECIALLY around the bearing edges.

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This is where the seam of the drum has been "modified". You can see the wood putty over the bolt heads :\

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Tried to get those bolts cleaned up at least....

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Still got to strip the hoops....

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Since this drum has been "modified" at some point in the past... I am wondering how much time to spend on it. It probably can't get back to anywhere close to original. I started to take out the bolts around the reinforcing rings, and the drum started to come undone a bit. So.. they are staying on :\

So a couple of questions.

I am trying to decide on how much time to spend scrubbing those blue satins out... around the bearing edges. I tried a LITTLE bit of sand paper, but that is going to take too much wood off. I also tried even more Jasco and steel wool.... but those stains are still kinda there. Should I let it go and move on?

Is it easier to just buy new hoops? Or are hoops a REAL pain to strip? The Hoops are 22 3/4" x 1 1/2". Is that 22 3/4" a standard size? What's everyone's take?

What should I use on the nickel hardware?

larger images here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/brwells/OldDrum#

Thanks again for all the help!

Jasco the hoops too. It'll cut through a few layers. If you need to hit the hoops again.

Will do.

Yeah.... the outside of the shell took 3 passes of Jasco to get off the 3 layers.

Still... I should try and refinish instead of buying new hoops?