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Can anyone identify this Tempo Snare?

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Here is an odd one from my collection. I can't seem to find any info on it at all. I did find a TEMPRO badge in the guide and it looks a lot like this logo but this one definitely says TEMPO.

It's actually very nice quality for an MIJ. It's apparently a Slingerland clone. Right down to the stick save hoops.

I know there are a zillion MIJ brands but.... anyone heard of this one?

Thanks

Posted on 10 years ago
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Yes - I am supposed to be one of the MIJ experts on here - but I am embarassed that I do not recall. My gut feelingis that it was made by Pearl. I can confirm that since it has the thin shell with the re-rings - it is 1967 or earlier.

There has been a bit of confusion on the Tempo vs. Tempro - but there ARE some MIJ stencil experts on here that have a clear understanding of their origin - only a matter of time before they chime in.

Nice drum there! I think since you have the more complex tone control, the stick-saver hoops, and ample washers - that it can be considered on of the nicer stencil models.

John

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Posted on 10 years ago
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Yes Indeed, I have one in my shop. Same badge. I've cannibalized it for parts, but I may still have the badge somewhere.

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Posted on 10 years ago
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I have owned a Tempo kit in mint condition for several years (blue sparkle). It has a different badge though: "World's Supreme Quality, Made in Japan". That points to Star. The hardware is identical to my set of Supremes which is definitely Star. There has indeed been some lengthy discussion about the manufacturer. I believe that Star made Tempos and that Pearl made Tempros. I think that Ralf will agree. Hope this helps a bit.

Brian

Just a drummer who loves all things about vintage drums! Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 10 years ago
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Sorry, Brian, but the snare strainer construction was never made by Star (also the badge is totally different from the Star made 'Tempo' badge).

This one appears to be a Crown made snare drum. Here's another one:

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=31219

I think Mikey777 points it.

Cheers, Ralf

Vintage STAR (= Pre-Tama) website: www.star-drums.de
Posted on 10 years ago
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From Ralf

Sorry, Brian, but the snare strainer construction was never made by Star (also the badeg is totally different from the Star made 'Tempo' badge).This one appears to be a Crown made snare drum. Here's another one:http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=31219I think Mikey777 points it.Cheers, Ralf

Yep, you're right, Ralf! I should have looked at the strainer before I replied! I still find it interesting that both Star and Pearl could manufacture drums by the same name. Thanks, Ralf!

Brian

Just a drummer who loves all things about vintage drums! Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 10 years ago
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Yes - research will indicate, seen and discussed here on the forum before, that some stencil kits were manufactured by both Pearl and Star. Sometimes one drum will have parts of each - at least that is what it appears as - and we all enjoy the speculation that follows! Prime example is the shell on the Star (and indeed the lugs) chrome snares (Majestic for example) that is seemingly identical to the Pearl chrome shell of that time. I am convinced that some US retailers used both Star and Pearl together for some of their kits.

I had a great day! Instead of sleeping in and wasting the day, I got up at 8 and I had all my slacking done by noon!

2Timothy1:7
Posted on 10 years ago
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From Drummerjohn333

Yes - research will indicate, seen and discussed here on the forum before, that some stencil kits were manufactured by both Pearl and Star. Sometimes one drum will have parts of each - at least that is what it appears as - and we all enjoy the speculation that follows! Prime example is the shell on the Star (and indeed the lugs) chrome snares (Majestic for example) that is seemingly identical to the Pearl chrome shell of that time. I am convinced that some US retailers used both Star and Pearl together for some of their kits.

I think I have to think over the matter with Majestic once again. Your pic. doesn't show Star-like lugs and this metal shell looks slightly different to my Star metal shells as well ...

I'll investigate in this soon.

Edit: it's curious: many 'Majestic De Luxe' drum pics on this forum indicate 'Made by Star'. No doubts.

But the lugs above? I'm not sure, as they are not the common Star style. Do you have a pic of the strainer as well?

Cheers, Ralf

Vintage STAR (= Pre-Tama) website: www.star-drums.de
Posted on 10 years ago
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Anyone have any idea what this Tempo is worth? It's probably headed for eBay. I paid over $100 for it. Sounds like I paid too much.

Posted on 10 years ago
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From KapperDog

Anyone have any idea what this Tempo is worth? It's probably headed for eBay. I paid over $100 for it. Sounds like I paid too much.

I would say that yes, you paid too much for that snare. At the same time, sometimes people pay more than usual based on availability at that moment and that it perhaps is a great match for their kit. Generally speaking these MIJ snares are not worth 100, but sometimes people give more than typical prices.

I would say these snares are generally worth between 40 and 80. Everything is subject to any one person's obsession over something - as most of us here can testify to.

If I were you and you had a use for it (a kit that it matched for example) I would keep it, as you are sure to lose money if you try to sell it. If you are not satisfied with how it sounds, then perhaps it needs edgework or it needs new heads and a good tuning.

Best Blessings,

John

I had a great day! Instead of sleeping in and wasting the day, I got up at 8 and I had all my slacking done by noon!

2Timothy1:7
Posted on 10 years ago
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