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Starting my first Ludwig project... I'm excited!

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This will be up and running in no time. Looks like a good one! How bad are the edges? Out of round at all?

Posted on 11 years ago
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The shells are not obviously out of round.

I am a little worried about the bottom of the floor tom. My camera situation is weak right now but if I can get some decent pictures of the bottom I could use some advice on exactly what tack to take on that drum. It's rough and delaminating some. Cooked Egg

Not a Guru... just interested..
Posted on 11 years ago
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Jim very nice Ludwig project you have there. Yes please ahare some pics when you can. Even cell phone pics work in a pinch.

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 11 years ago
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Bottom edges... :(

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Wow! looks like you have your work cut out for you. How are you going to approach this? But as said before, worth every dime and every hour.


Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 11 years ago
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NOT A CLUE... not a guru. ;) I'm thinking I strip the hardware off the shells and then take them to Columbus Pro Percussion for a little advice... Help2

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Posted on 11 years ago
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NOT A CLUE... not a guru. ;) I'm thinking I strip the hardware off the shells and then take them to Columbus Pro Percussion for a little advice... Help2

Chris White at Columbus Pro Percussion will be able to help.

Ludwig Maple 3 ply 22 13 16 '72 SBP
Ludwig Maple 3 ply 20 12 14 '73 BDP
Ludwig CM 20 12 14 2011 Natural Maple
Gretsch Renown Bop 18 12 14 2012 Piano Blk

Ludwig Hammered Bronze 5 x 14 '82 Chicago
Ludwig Supraphonic 5 x 14 '72 w/Die Cast
Ludwig Jazz Fest 5 x 14 B/O OBP '72
Ludwig Pioneer 5 x 14 KS Black Lacquer '67
Ludwig Acrolite 5 x 14 B/O '70
Ludwig 6.5 x 14 Birch Natural - Monroe '90s
Slingerland Bronze 6.5 x 14 '70s
Posted on 11 years ago
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Very nice, Jim! That will surely be a killer when you get it all together. I'm guessing the two extra holes are from someone moving the consolette to the center to make it a Hollywood kit, right?

Congrats!

Lynn

I'm no guru, just a vintage drum junkie!

Psalm 150:5
1945 Slingerland RK sparkling gold pearl 26/13/14/16/early 50s 5.5x14 Krupa RK
1967 Slingerland green glass glitter 20/12/14/Hollywood Ace
60s Slingerland 24/13/16/7x14 project
24/13/16/7x14 project RKs
60s 5 & 6.5 Sound Kings
1942 7x14 WMP Krupa RK
1930s Slingerland Universal
1967 Ludwig Hollywood sparkling blue pearl 22/12/13/16
1967 Ludwig Supraphonic 400 & 402
1965 Ludwig Jazz Fest sparkling blue pearl
1923 Ludwig 5x14 NOB
Posted on 11 years ago
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Jim,

Looks like a great project!

Looking at your last two pictures, here's what I would do with the resonant side edges on the FT as an alternative to try instead of having new edges cut:

1) (Assuming there's a little separation of the plies at the seam -- if not, ignore this step) Force some wood glue or Elmer's glue into the separation and clamp tight -- be sure to wipe the excess clean with a wetted wipe (rag or paper towel).

2) After that dries (I'd let it go overnight), mix up a small portion of Rock Hard Water Putty (available at just about any hardware store) and fill in the dings and gouges in the bearing edge, forming the putty as close to the form of the edge as possible. The gouges look rough enough (from the pictures) to hold the putty fine (the putty is kinda like paint -- it won't stick to smooth surfaces real well, so the gouges will need a little "texture."). Wipe away all excess putty. (BTW -- Evidently, Slingerland used a process similar this this right at the factory, as I've had Slingerland drums show up here that had putty-type of patches on bearing edges. Quite frankly this experience with older Slingys is what gave me the idea to do this in the first place!!)

3) By hand, smooth out the patches with sand paper (120 grit will work). Understand this is a slow process and takes time and patience.

4) repeat 2) & 3) above if necessary.

BTW -- On the lifting seams, I've had some success by pealing back the wrap just a little and forcing in some super glue OR on occasions I've been able to put some of the double-faced tape under the flap (& clamp down overnight). This will work as long as the wrap isn't real brittle... 'cause if it is it will easily break when you're trying to lift it up. IF it's brittle, you can still usually force some glue in, and then clamp (BTW -- I clamp with a 1x2 on it's edge along the seam and simple C-clamps on the ends. I also always put down a "barrier" of blue painter's tape along the seam so if any comes out it comes out on the tape. I hope that made sense -- no pics available at this time!).

Hope this helps a little. Again, looks like a great project!

Bill

Bill
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Posted on 11 years ago
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MichaelWray... That Chris White is a very practical and smart guy... and he loves to talk vintage drums... we probably spent 45 minutes just looking over the consignment kits. What a great resource to have so close.

Billnvick... your advice matched Chris'... give repairing a shot before you go to recutting.

So I will re-bond any delamination.... put on the putty and clean up the edges and see if they tune OK. If not... then we recut.

The wrap repair is what is scaring the crap out of me... Chris said to CAREFULLY take loose the full edge.. CAREFULLY lift it, clean it, contact cement it and put it back down. If I crack it I'm screwed.. so that is freaking me out a little.

Well we'll see how it goes....

Not a Guru... just interested..
Posted on 11 years ago
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