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Need Help with some R.OC. Kit!

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Hy Guys

i need your knowledge about Kits R.O.C. made.

I got this one, because it was offerd very cheapp (100 $) and the guy who sold it was not not really into drumming, so i got it for 80$ ;-)

I bought it because for the kids i give lessons to.

I don`t won`t to use my Tama Royalstar or my Tromsa neither my Star set for the kids.

Every vintage Guy will understand my problem:-)

What i know is that is probably made in the late very late 70s to early 80s.

Tomholder looks like Tama, the Brackets like Ludwig, the lugs like Pearl.

Would some of you guys know mor about it?

By the way it sounds quite good;-)Help2

Posted on 11 years ago
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Everything about this kit screams Maxwin by Pearl except the tom mount.

Possibly not the original one.

60's Sonor Teardrops & 70s Premier AMs
Sabian
Vic Firth
Remo/Evans

"unless it's vintage, it's just another wooden tube."
Posted on 11 years ago
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Hy,

i thougts so to when i saw it the firts time! But the Tommount is original, there is nothing changed, i checked it.

Is there a possibility that the Hoshino Gakki Konzern(Star,Tama) something like that kit build?

I know Maxwins pretty well because i made two Restaurations on Maxwins.

Posted on 11 years ago
#3
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look inside the shell.

Usually Star/Tama drums will have diagonally cut seams on the plies and they will be very tight.

Pearl made stencil shells usually have straight cut seams, often with a gap.

60's Sonor Teardrops & 70s Premier AMs
Sabian
Vic Firth
Remo/Evans

"unless it's vintage, it's just another wooden tube."
Posted on 11 years ago
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They are straight and the have a little gap! You mean that this is a Pearl Production then?

Posted on 11 years ago
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more than likely

60's Sonor Teardrops & 70s Premier AMs
Sabian
Vic Firth
Remo/Evans

"unless it's vintage, it's just another wooden tube."
Posted on 11 years ago
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These MIT's have no rhyme or reason to their construction-bootlegged Tama this, bootlegged Pearl that,some chubby Rogers lugs ,some "branded lugs like Adam or Blackhawk, and almost always luan shells ,sometimes with, sometimes without Zolocote. The sub-quality castings are the weakest link on these drums, so don't over tighten anything. Spurs,tom mounts and even lug casings will just snap off-

Posted on 11 years ago
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Hi!,

I actually have owned two ROC kits. I bought them both as projects to re-sell. I was curious about their heritage, and got the straight story from a couple folks... mostly from Dana Bentley, who knew the guy that imported them, and may have sold them as well, but I could be wrong about selling them.

In the eighties the guy was advertising them in trade magazines... huge kits for not much money. He'd order the shells from an ROC (Republic Of China) company and assemble them near (or in) San Francisco. Production came screeching to a halt in the late eighties or early nineties when he discovered he was allergic to the wood and wood shavings, and he was getting ill. The build quality seemed pretty much as expected for MIT kits, but the hardware seemed a bit better.

Here's a picture of a 'Vega' badged kit that is supposed to be an ROC in disguise. The tom stand does look similar, but the lugs are different.

Go here for more pictures of the same 'Vega' kit.

http://www.fishwaltz.com/fs12.html

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Here's more information from another forum... I'm not sure if David allows links to other forums, so if it disappears, my apologies, David. PM me for the link.

http://www.drumforum.org/index.php?/topic/45418-roc-drums/

fishwaltz
Posted on 11 years ago
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I apologise for misunderstanding the subject of specifically ROC brand as opposed to made in ROC/MIT.I spoke to the owner at length about construction and configurations. He was very accommodating and the higher end set still only ended up being about 1/2 the price of an American or other high end set. But,sub grade hardware and gigging 5 nights a week don't go together...

Posted on 11 years ago
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