My big Rogers set has six double headed toms (12-13-14-15, 16FT 20FT) and two concert toms (8 & 10), and I wouldn't dream of installing reso heads on those concert toms. They add so much tonal variety and color to fills. There needn't be such debate about concert toms... they're just a different type of drum, just as are bongos or timbales. It shouldn't be a choice of one type of drum or the other. They all have their place.

Oh, I've been looking for the original concert tom trim material with no success. Please let us know what your solution is.

Mike C.

What trim? the chrome tape on the bottom? Can you post a picture of it?

That`s gonna be a drawn U-Chanel, much like a hoop, prolly made at the factory.

Friend of mine had them on his and they vibrate, I don`t have any at the bottom of mine, 9 plies is enough to sustain an edge !!

Yes, Jeff. Exactly. I don't have a photo of an example (as my toms are missing this trim), but from catalog pictures, it appears to be metalic tape or a thin piece of stainless.

Here is my 10" Ludwig concert tom I bought in !980 or 81. It is 6 ply maple with the metal ring on the bottom. The 15" other is from when I bought my original concert toms in 1974. 3ply maple with rerings and granitone interior. I have 6" 8 " 15" and 16" like those and 10" and 14" 6 ply. I put rims on the 14" 15" and 16" toms and use them as floor toms sometimes. There ok when you want to do something different. I use the 10" a lot.

There's nothing per se wrong with having or playing concert toms - they're just "different" than double headed toms. Before judging them too harshly may I suggest checking out the work of Gretsch star drummer Chico Hamilton, who is still with us at age 91. Most of his live and recorded work used a Gretsch kit with concert toms and usually a single head bass drum as well, and he certainly knew how to draw the tonality and sensitivity out from them. Back in the 1950's Trixon's Speedfire Outfit had a row of five single head toms across the top in ascending pitch, augmented with the renowned "Lionel Hampton" model 20" x 18" concert floor tom. I used to gig with the same model kit six nights a week and it was just the thing for cabaret shows and nightclub work. I do agree with previous posts linking the advance of audio technology with the choice and use of single headed drums. The actual sounds of the drums notwithstanding, most would agree that the sounds of the recordings purposefully designed to be heard over car radios, televisions, home stereos, and danced to in clubs, had truly fantastic rhythmic foundations. In closing may I suggest that tough economic times + lowered manufacturing and shipping costs may yet combine to make popular The 21st Century Concert Tom Revival!

Hey those are pretty! My Rogers have or had a cheep tin foil quality srtip around the bottom. My very first CL score was a whole bunch of gear. Included was the concert toms pictured. Like a dumb a$$ I sold them on ebay. Sold for 50.00 each. Wish I had them now, I guess thats why I dont sell anything anymore.

Hi everybody!

May I ask you just an information, please?!

I found this "concert" gretsch drum set but I'm not sure about the price.

Someone can help me to value this drums, please?!

Thanks a lot

bye

GRETSCH - 1977 - “CONCERT”:

- TOM 6-1/2” x 10” - mod.4449;

- TOM 8” x 12” - mod.4450;

- TOM 10” x 14” - mod.4452;

- TOM 12” x 15” - mod.4453;

- FLOOR TOM 16” x 18” - mod.4419;

- SNARE DRUM 5” x 14” - mod.4160;

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A lot of people have made valid points on this thread, both for and against concert toms. I was wondering if you are going to use them for recording or gigging. A lot as been mentioned about concert toms on recordings (Queen, The Who, Boston, The Eagles etc...). With the right room/reverb/processing they are going to sound huge.So will a cardboard box or the yellow pages...

On the other hand, on small gigs and in practice rooms tom fills will go from a dry thud to a full tom sound. I went through a period in my quest for a reduced sized kit where I used 2 14" rotos on snare stands as toms. This was the first time I ever had to ask for toms in monitors, just to have a bit of reverb on them. The experience was short-lived! Was worth a try!

These days I dream of finding a 10" script badge Rogers concert tom to convert to a double header, that I'd wrap to match my kit. 10"/13"/16" seems to be a recipe that works for my tuning needs & I don't believe that Rogers made 10" double headed toms in the 60's.

Anyways, enough ranting...... diapers and a rehearsal await!

Put quite simply, they sound and more importantly to me, look awful:o