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L&L peacock Marcher. This was before I owned it. Its now shiney and complete and sounds great. Its unusual nature and condition are always a big hit at the shows. . .

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Keep em Flying ! ✈️
Posted on 12 years ago
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From DionneDrummer

I might be able to take pics of it this weekend. All I know about it is my Dad purchased it back in the 50s from the Spirit of '76 fife & drum corp in Springfield, MA when the group disbanded.Unlike the Eames and Cooperman, there is no paper label on the inside.I actually have not checked any sites to ID the snare. Which would you recommend?

A couple of questions for you regarding the unidentified drum. 1. Have you check with the company of fifers and drummers here in CT? They tend to have a lot of information on older corps that are now defunct and some of the older folks involved with the museum might know either where the other drums ended up to check for maker information. 2. Do you currently march with any fife and drum corps and attend any of the summer musters? If so I would be happy to take a look at the drum and also show it to a few other people that attend these things and possibly get some info on the maker.

The date of the drum could be anywhere from the late 1860's to the erly teen in the 20th century. The ears in the picture (though blurry) look like they have brass tops on the (some of these had rope breaks on them as well to prevent the ears from sliding) and the last time I see them appear in a catologue is in the 1911 Excelsior Drum works which is here on this site. I think that the drum is most likely going to be from the 1870's just because the size was not very popular in the early part of the 20th century. I have not seen any evidence that any of the modern drum companies that made marching rope drums (Gretsch, Ludwig, Slingerland etc.) ever used that style ear and I have never seen them on Cooperman drums (unless by special order or restoration), Moeller, George B. Stone or Eames. I have seen those ears on Lyon & Healy, A.G.S. Excelsior (Excelsior drum works, A.G.S. Philidelphia), John C. Haynes and several others. I would love to see some clearer pictures.

Posted on 12 years ago
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CT PRO:

1) Actually I have not asked anyone at COFAD about it. Wasn't sure who to ask.

2) I belong to the Sudbury Ancients. Not sure yet which musters I'll make this year. I'll send you a PM.

3) I will take some pics of the current state of the drum and post here soon. I say current state because the heads, ropes and ears were changed since that picture - but we kept it all.

1960s Ralston (Star) set in Red Agate Pearl 12/12/16/20
1961 Ludwig Cocktail Lounge drum 24 x 16 in blue sparkle
1966 Ludwig Hollywoods in Sky Blue Pearl 12/13/16/22
1971 Ludwig Super Classics in Blue Sparkle 13/16/22
1976 Ludwig Vistalites in Blue 13/14/16/22
70s/80s Ludwig orphans in Black Cortex "Bonham" style 14/16/18/20/26 (B/O Badges)

Many snares
Posted on 12 years ago
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grantro and wadsmoe:

I think it sounds great together. I have some vids on the tube with different kits. D' Drummer

Posted on 12 years ago
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tdennis & CT Pro - Here are pics of the strainer and other parts of the unidentified drum.

1960s Ralston (Star) set in Red Agate Pearl 12/12/16/20
1961 Ludwig Cocktail Lounge drum 24 x 16 in blue sparkle
1966 Ludwig Hollywoods in Sky Blue Pearl 12/13/16/22
1971 Ludwig Super Classics in Blue Sparkle 13/16/22
1976 Ludwig Vistalites in Blue 13/14/16/22
70s/80s Ludwig orphans in Black Cortex "Bonham" style 14/16/18/20/26 (B/O Badges)

Many snares
Posted on 12 years ago
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From DionneDrummer

tdennis & CT Pro - Here are pics of the strainer and other parts of the unidentified drum.

The snare strainer and snare butt end are gretsch.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 12 years ago
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Gretsch had a page in their 1941 catalog dedicated to their "Colonial" drums, custom built to order. The photo on the page is an example of one of these snares, w/ a Round Badge & a "Parade snare Strainer". It's very possible that DionneDrummer's snare is a Gretsch custom ordered "Colonial" drum from the 50's w/ the "Renown" strainer & Round Badge removed.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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Here are picks of the vent hole and seam.

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1960s Ralston (Star) set in Red Agate Pearl 12/12/16/20
1961 Ludwig Cocktail Lounge drum 24 x 16 in blue sparkle
1966 Ludwig Hollywoods in Sky Blue Pearl 12/13/16/22
1971 Ludwig Super Classics in Blue Sparkle 13/16/22
1976 Ludwig Vistalites in Blue 13/14/16/22
70s/80s Ludwig orphans in Black Cortex "Bonham" style 14/16/18/20/26 (B/O Badges)

Many snares
Posted on 12 years ago
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sadly I no longer have it

[IMG]http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4135/5441434399_5e8bc25835_z.jpg[/IMG]

15x12, silver sparkle, NOB hardware.

Absolute beast of a snare drum.

Posted on 12 years ago
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From DionneDrummer

tdennis & CT Pro - Here are pics of the strainer and other parts of the unidentified drum.

I know where there are a couple of Gretsch rope tension drums, I will contact the owner and see if he can take a picture of the drums for identification. The only problem I see with this is that there is no badge on the drums and the rope drums that I have seen that were made by Gretsch have all had badges on them. There were a few drum makers along the way that would use whatever they had or could find to put a drum together, sometimes using other manufacturers parts and sometimes making them from scratch with what ever pieces or scraps that had laying around.

Posted on 12 years ago
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