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The Fruits of Labor...

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Purchased my first vintage drum kit, a 1966ish Star/Majestic 22/12/14 this December.

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I would restore the hardware, shell and oyster pearl wrap to shiny and well working condition as well as replace missing parts. Members of this forum offered procedures, tips, product lists, controversy, support, guidance, different opinions, video lessons, images, referrals and on and on.

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[IMG]http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc379/briandambrosiadonner/1966%20Star%20Drum%20Kit%20Project/spursupport2.jpg[/IMG]

The restoration process is tedious, requires patience and focus, careful and precise use of products and tools...AND REWARDING!

[IMG]http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc379/briandambrosiadonner/1966%20Star%20Drum%20Kit%20Project/Kit_nohardware.jpg[/IMG]

Nearly completed, (I will use the bass drum tom arm, actual spurs and bass drum cymbal mount when they arrive) this set joins my 1955 Ludwig 6 1/2x14" Contest Model Snare, 70's Zildjian A 13" hats, 2 recent model Zildjian A 19" fast crashes (one's a 'custom'), and my newly acquired late 50's Zildjian A 22" ride, to serve as my main home and gigging drum set.

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[IMG]http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc379/briandambrosiadonner/1966%20Star%20Drum%20Kit%20Project/Kitw_3c_snare.jpg[/IMG]

I have documented most of the process of this project in this web album,[[URL="http://photobucket.com/brianstarkit"]brianstarkit/URL] if you want to see more photos.

Tonight was my first practice on my Star and the payoff was grand. The tone, dynamics, overall sound quality and feel was EXACTLY why I bought this drumset...and it makes my great snare sound even better. It doesn't hurt that my bandmates really like it too.

I'm currently using the original tom heads, but will mount new Aquarian Texture Coated batter heads for my upcoming gig. These, by the way, have the Z100 coating jonnistix suggested. The drum heads aren't called Z100's anymore, just texture coated. I paid $9 for the 14" heads and $12 for the 12. Pretty affordable. I may need additional muffling for the bass, but want to work on tunings first. every time i set the bass down, the t rods turn and whack the drum out of tune. I love the moon gels for muffling indoors. I probably won't muffle the toms or snare live, though.

I visited VDF to guide my shopping, purchase, and bringing back to life this kit and some of its independent components. I so enjoy the conversation, content, debates and variety of postings on this forum, I find myself spend much more time reading and participating than I expected.

This is a great community!

[SIZE="6"][COLOR="Magenta"]THANKS!!![/COLOR][/SIZE]

I'll stick around a while

'65/'66 Slingerland Stage Band in Red Sparkle Pearl
'67 Rogers Buddy Rich Headliner in Blue Sparkle Pearl
'49 WFL 6.5x14 Contest Snare
'55 Slingerland 7x14 Hollywood Ace Snare
'70's Premier PD2000 5x14 Snare
50's & 70's Zildjian/Paiste Cymbals
Posted on 12 years ago
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Brian, job well done! And Welcome! aboard as a member, not just a lurker! Those are some sweet looking "Semi-Pros". That is not the easiest wrap in the world to find in a complete kit. Did you get the snare as well? A matching woodie would make that kit pop on stage. Straighten out those badges and play them proudly. I see some young feet in the background of one pic, hopefully that is going to be our next drummer!

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
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Posted on 12 years ago
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Hi Brian.

I was Eyeing that set on Ebay as well. I just had too many projects ahead of it!

You did a FANTASTIC job on that restoration. It looks great and when you get the tom tom arm, it will look even better. I'm curious tho...did you tackle the bearing edges? I rebuilt a Pearl Valencia set awhile back and I had to redo every single bearing edge to get a decent sound out of the set.

A job well done, sir!! Enjoy 'em!

Retro

Posted on 12 years ago
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Retro, FYI , this kit should be all round over, 3 ply with re-rings, like the old Ludwigs and Slingerlands, before they started putting any angle to them. So the only thing one should do to them, if they wanted to keep the original vibe and tone, is to lightly sand the edges to a smoother contour, using 100/220 grits, not changing the contour at all, rather just smoothing them out, as long as there is no damage. Any damage would need to be filled with plastic wood, then sanded back to AOC*, or routered to make them something they should not be.

These old drums don't take well to the router table as the wood is dry and extremely brittle. It takes a skilled hand and some other materials and time to change the AOC* of MIJ roundover edges, something most normal guys don't understand. I know how to do it, but likely won't be passing that info on to but a few woodworker types, such as Jeff (jccabinets), since he works with wood daily. It is a tedious process and involves a mess and a few days to do it properly...not for the uninitiated or novice woodworker.

Other than that, they should be left gloriously in their original state, only sanding lightly and repairing any dings, then treating them with a little wax or mineral oil, something along those lines, but oiling must be done gradually, not dousing them. Tung or linseed oil might be best for edges, but I prefer beeswax or carnuba, it doesn't make the wood swell up, just gives it a nice, smooth surface.

Many people advise against waxes, saying they make the heads stick in place...not so. As soon as you run a few triplets across them, the wax warms right up and becomes malleable again, making tuning a breeze.

6 or 9 ply shells, already cut to sharper angles, need entirely different care, and I still shy away from the router if at all possible. Sandpaper is almost always the way to go, unless the edges are chewed up badly, or you desire to change the overall characteristics of the drums.Coffee Break2

[COLOR="Red"]*AOC = Approximate Original Contour[/COLOR]

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Coffee...16613138379603
Posted on 12 years ago
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that's why this is the best site ...another restoration well done kudos and welcome

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 12 years ago
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From Retrosonic

Hi Brian.I was Eyeing that set on Ebay as well. I just had too many projects ahead of it!You did a FANTASTIC job on that restoration. It looks great and when you get the tom tom arm, it will look even better. I'm curious tho...did you tackle the bearing edges? I rebuilt a Pearl Valencia set awhile back and I had to redo every single bearing edge to get a decent sound out of the set.A job well done, sir!! Enjoy 'em!Retro

Thanks!

On the bearing edges I did the following:

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[*]Lightly sanded with 220 as per jonnistix

[*]Applied a coat of wood hardner as per PurdieShuffleas

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As I tweak tuning and change heads I may wax...may not.

Everything sounded great last night!

'65/'66 Slingerland Stage Band in Red Sparkle Pearl
'67 Rogers Buddy Rich Headliner in Blue Sparkle Pearl
'49 WFL 6.5x14 Contest Snare
'55 Slingerland 7x14 Hollywood Ace Snare
'70's Premier PD2000 5x14 Snare
50's & 70's Zildjian/Paiste Cymbals
Posted on 12 years ago
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From jonnistix

Brian, job well done! And Welcome! aboard as a member, not just a lurker! Those are some sweet looking "Semi-Pros". That is not the easiest wrap in the world to find in a complete kit. Did you get the snare as well? A matching woodie would make that kit pop on stage. Straighten out those badges and play them proudly. I see some young feet in the background of one pic, hopefully that is going to be our next drummer!

Thanks for the kind words and the ongoing support in my earlier thread.

1. How do you straighten a badge?

2. Love to get a matching kit someday.

3. The young feet happen to be of my young bas player who just joined the 40 yr old club 3 month's ago;)

Thanks,

Brian

'65/'66 Slingerland Stage Band in Red Sparkle Pearl
'67 Rogers Buddy Rich Headliner in Blue Sparkle Pearl
'49 WFL 6.5x14 Contest Snare
'55 Slingerland 7x14 Hollywood Ace Snare
'70's Premier PD2000 5x14 Snare
50's & 70's Zildjian/Paiste Cymbals
Posted on 12 years ago
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From jaghog

that's why this is the best site ...another restoration well done kudos and welcome

Thanks! Practicing is sooo fun now! D' Drummer

'65/'66 Slingerland Stage Band in Red Sparkle Pearl
'67 Rogers Buddy Rich Headliner in Blue Sparkle Pearl
'49 WFL 6.5x14 Contest Snare
'55 Slingerland 7x14 Hollywood Ace Snare
'70's Premier PD2000 5x14 Snare
50's & 70's Zildjian/Paiste Cymbals
Posted on 12 years ago
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The kit is coming along great - I wanted to add that your ride in the photo likes very interesting- what is it?

For info. & live schedule:
www.EricWiegmanndrums.com
*Odery Drums Japan endorser/ representative
*Japan Distributor of Vruk DrumMaster pedals
*D'Addario Japan Evans/Promark/Puresound
*Amedia Cymbals Japan

It's the journey not the destination.
Posted on 12 years ago
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From OsakaBop

The kit is coming along great - I wanted to add that your ride in the photo likes very interesting- what is it?

From the O.P.

Nearly completed, (I will use the bass drum tom arm, actual spurs and bass drum cymbal mount when they arrive) this set joins my 1955 Ludwig 6 1/2x14" Contest Model Snare, 70's Zildjian A 13" hats, 2 recent model Zildjian A 19" fast crashes (one's a 'custom'), and my newly acquired late 50's Zildjian A 22" ride, to serve as my main home and gigging drum set

Its better to have people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and prove them wrong, unless you doubt yourself then speak away....
Posted on 12 years ago
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