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Help With These Zildjians and Model Etc.

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From OddBall

Mr.Lud, You didn`t need a hundred posts to answer if they were A`s or K`s,....yours clearly say Avedis Zildjian on them !! Second,..more in case,...after you clean them and decide that`s what you like,...How will you stop the bronze from oxidizeing again ?? You can`t without adding something that will ruin the sound !! Those polished cymbals you seen in the photo wont stay that way very long and your dark brown ugly fingerprints will show up the next day. The patina on the cymbals actually wont let your fingerprints turn dark brown, it protects the cymbal from further oxidation.

As I had said in one post, one of the best ways to artificially age a cymbal is to actually polish it!!! That's right- get rid of the coating of lacquer and slight patina. I old K's looked quite brown about two months after I polished off my finger prints!!! Keeping them shiny is too much work for this old guy. I hate to think what they look like now. Okay- they actually probably look pretty cool...

'scuse me while I go pee on my ddrum shade cymbal :p

Yeah- I'm THAT guy!!!

Dead dogs like rusty fire hydrants!!!
Posted on 12 years ago
#111
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From Mr.Lud

I happen to not think old fashioned a lot of the time lol as you can see.

Sometimes the "old fashioned" way is the best way. Technology doesn't always trump traditional methods of doing things. When they do, I am the first to embrace them. I got my first home PC in 1986 and was logging in to the rudimentatry precursor of what is today's internet that same year. I have five PC's and laptops in my house as well as one tablet, and 3 smartphones. The are all networked. I've had a smartphone for over 3 years now. I wirelessly download hi def audio files from from the internet to my stereo system. But I embrace "old fashioned" when I believe its remains the best solution.

Mark
BosLover
Posted on 12 years ago
#112
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From Mr.Lud

Good deals let us know how it turns out. I am interested to know what I can about the artificial aging of this stuff. There we go artificial aging not artificial patina or crappy patina lol

Update: I cleaned off the patina. Everything but a couple of dark spots came off. But it is not a polished finish any longer.

I then dug a hole in the back garden, put a bit of my daughter Trixie's litter in the hole, and intend to keep it buried for a month or two.

Update to come...

Yeah- I'm THAT guy!!!

Dead dogs like rusty fire hydrants!!!
Posted on 12 years ago
#113
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I think if you peed on it first,that might help a bit..........

"Always make sure your front bottom BD lugs clear the ground!"
Posted on 12 years ago
#114
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See I didn't know they were A.Zildjians I am unsure of how the whole cymbal thing works so thank you very much!!

Old fashioned is sometimes better. I agree, I also think that this is just a very simplistic chemical reaction that isn't by any means hard to replicate. On a atomic scale the oxygen and all the other elements it is exposed to over time are literally destroying the cymbal over time. It isn't like the oxidation just appears over time, it is the reacting with the cymbal and changing its properties of a metal. Its changing the way the cymbal sounds alright. Not in a good way either.

Posted on 12 years ago
#115
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From blairndrums

I think if you peed on it first,that might help a bit..........

My girl's litter (w/pee and poopy doops) is in the hole, and I sprayed the cymbal with pickled onion vinegar before burying it. I have also peed in that spot.

Yeah- I'm THAT guy!!!

Dead dogs like rusty fire hydrants!!!
Posted on 12 years ago
#116
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From Mr.Lud

See I didn't know they were A.Zildjians I am unsure of how the whole cymbal thing works so thank you very much!!Old fashioned is sometimes better. I agree, I also think that this is just a very simplistic chemical reaction that isn't by any means hard to replicate. On a atomic scale the oxygen and all the other elements it is exposed to over time are literally destroying the cymbal over time. It isn't like the oxidation just appears over time, it is the reacting with the cymbal and changing its properties of a metal. Its changing the way the cymbal sounds alright. Not in a good way either.

Nothing was really etched into the shade when I cleaned it. But I used food grade stuff, not industrial cleaning products. And now that it's buried, it is just being patina'd by old' momma earth!!!

Yeah- I'm THAT guy!!!

Dead dogs like rusty fire hydrants!!!
Posted on 12 years ago
#117
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From blairndrums

I think if you peed on it first,that might help a bit..........

I love it. I don't think burying a cymbal for a couple of months will do anything. I don't get all these quick solutions to accomplish what occurs naturally over time. Not everything can be accomplished faster and better with new techniques. Some times the old way is the best way.

Mark
BosLover
Posted on 12 years ago
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From bunnyman

My girl's litter (w/pee and poopy doops) is in the hole, and I sprayed the cymbal with pickled onion vinegar before burying it. I have also peed in that spot.

OK.....I think that will work fine.........

"Always make sure your front bottom BD lugs clear the ground!"
Posted on 12 years ago
#119
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From blairndrums

OK.....I think that will work fine.........

I am not buying his pooped on cymbals. I don't care how good they smell...er, sound!

Mark
BosLover
Posted on 12 years ago
#120
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