First of all, welcome to the VDF!

These look to be really interesting drums! You'll see that european rarities like this one are never considered disturbing here!

Now, about the restoration. I am by no means an expert, but I know that thick layer of rust and mold gowing in a drum are not good. You said the floor tom is still wet. You need it to dry before starting any work. I would recommend fixing it in perfectly round shape for the process - as it dries, it might bend out of round. Once it is dry and solid (relatively solid - in fact, all thin drums like these can be bent little with your bare hands), carefully scrub al the mold away with wet cloth. You need to sand off the rust 'till you get nice, shiny, healthy metal. Hopefully, the rust isn't too deep yet. After that, conserve the rims - you can buy appropriate chemical in a hobby store. In a time, you also want to de-rust all the steel parts. Leave the lugs be and don't scrub them - there are different ways of cleaning chromed parts and I'll leave that to others. Just clean the threads on them and the screws and lubricate them, so they work smoothly!

That's all I know, now others will hopefully chime in with their opinions about bearing edges, ply separation etc.

You'll find a wealth of knowledge here on VDF - there are some real drum scholars!

Sorry I can't help with the ID, but noticed that the shell on the floor tom looks like masonite (early type of pressed wood). The BD interior is harder to see in the pics, but it looks like it may be masonite too. If so, it is the massive rings that are keeping the thin masonite shells in shape, and would explain why the sides push in.

Masonite wasn't used much in drums (I think Slingerland had a failed experiment with it in the 80s?) but was used on Danelectro guitars.

Water seriously disintegrates masonite, so get those drums dried out quick!

(Are the one headed drums timbales?)

Good luck with the restoration, that looks like quite a challenge!

Hey there guys,

Thanks for the kind replies. It is definately not a walk through the park, but I like the fact that it`s challenging. The satisfaction would be enormous if I can manage to get them in good shape.

The shells are, indeed, made from masonyte ( I had no idea it is called like this) Over here, that stuff is usually used for furniture, as drawer base or wardrobe back wall so it isn`t a good idea to make drums out of it, as it is pretty weak. I wonder what acoustic properties it has...

The drums are currently in the basement of my guitarist, away from any source of humidity. Until i`ll get someone to help me get them to my home, they`ll stay there. I started drying the floortom (bass was already dry) and it has slightly regained some of its strength. Also, i started sanding the rusty areas of the bass drum hoop. Luckily, corrosion is minimal, as the rust has deposited on top of the metal instead of eating it.

That`s about it for now... i`ll keep you updated and post some more pics soon!

Hello & welcome!

Yes, your BD looks as DOINA - it's really rare find for today.

Small screws on both mount holders - stolen from last "TROWA"...

And I'm surprised again&again - not so few of different brands from the end 70's - beg of 80's have a kinds of shells made from rolled cellulose or masonite... :)

George.

Welcome to the forum Irod!

Yeah, keep the pictures coming! I'm always fascinated with the kits from your end of the world.

From the looks of those rims, I think I might buy some stock in a steel wool & wire brush manufacturer!

If you can find enough of your logo, you can make a wax casting of it and reproduce it with epoxy.

Thanks for the welcome!

I`ve narrowed my search a little bit; Apparently, there were two Doina models, the only difference i could spot were different lugs (but almost identical)

Here is one of the lugs on my bassdrum, the other model being flat on the top.

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Also, there were models with or without damping system.I`ve seen drums (no only bass drums but also toms and floor toms) without d.s, with d.s on reso head and d.s on batter head. Maybe a manufacturing mistake? Anyway, the system is basically the same as those used on Trowa drums:

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These, combined with the hoop and masonyte shell would lead to a Doina. On the other hand, what confuses me are the tom/cymbal mounts. I haven`t seen any of these on a Doina, all the mounts i`ve seen were classic T-mounts for two toms. Also, another element contributing to my confusion is the badge, never seen such thing on a Doina. So i`m not 100% sure.

All in all, here are some more pictures. On the right side of the drum ( side with no tom mount and with damping knob) you can see a mark on the wrap that looks like a scratch. There`s where the badge was glued. The other pics are with the floor tom lugs, and the strange snare-like drums i talked about. Enjoy!

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Add a bit of bleach or white vinegar to the wash to remove the mold (spray bottle would be good), the mold has to be killed or it will come back. Soak hardware in white vinegar.

Not sure how good the Masonite (press-board) will sound, you may what to coat the insides with shellac, edges too.

Edges may need to be re-cut, how are they?

1. Yes, that's indeed a copy of earlier TROWA-system muffler - with double parallel levers and hard fixed plate. It's dated 50's to mid 60's - before germans have simplified their construction to one-lever system with free-swinging plate.

2. Agree with JRichard - it's a right way.

You can also to coat shells with use 2K-laquer, PES or liquid epoxy blend (with added thinner). After that you may quite to correct the edges and repeat coating once more.

George.