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From Purdie Shuffle

Does anyone know if there is a bio on Allen Blaemire, or a history of Blaemire drums anywhere on the web? I've searched, can't find any.John

Hey John,

There is not much to be found, but I did find a great post from DS, that I don't think Jerry would mind me reposting. It has some cool info about Allen. The following was posted in January of 2007.

Blaemire Lives!!

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My afternoon with Allen F. Blaemire……

Contrary to other accounts of the demise of Mr. Blaemire..... he is very much alive.

This past Sunday afternoon, was the culmination of my odyssey with the Blaemire fiberglass drums. I met Mr. Blaemire and his wife Kirsten. It was an amazing two hours.

This all started about three months ago when I decided to call a phone number that I had seen posted by “Max” on DS. It was in that same group of posts that I saw a posting by “WrapGuru” that he believed that Mr. Blaemire was deceased. With that statement and others, about the demise of Mr. Blaemire I called the number, hoping to maybe find a relative. I called, and Kirsten answered. I asked if she was Mrs. Blaemire, and to my surprise, she said yes! I then told her of my interest in her husband’s shells and that I had just recently restored a set. I began asking questions about the shells and if she might know certain things about how they were produced. She then asked if I would like to speak to Mr. Blaemire……I almost gasped! I inquisitively said…..he’s still alive? She seemed to chuckle and said “Oh yes, of course he is….he has Parkinson's, but he is very much alive!” I was now embarrassed that I had asked the question, but when he came on the line, I proceeded to ask him aspects of his shells and himself. I ended up calling them back over the next few months and finally was able set up an appointment to meet with Kirsten and Mr. Blaemire.

Let me now tell you about last Sunday’s visit with the Blaemires. First off, they are the sweetest couple and were the nicest hosts. Kirsten set up a card table in the garage with chairs around it for us to sit down. Why the garage? This was not just any garage; this was the very garage where these great fiberglass shells were made. And, it also allowed them to set up some of the tools and mandrels that the shells were made on. Kirsten even set up a mandrel with a small section of shell on it so I could see how it all worked together to produce the shell.

In this short visit, I learned a little about Mr. Blaemire and his life. He actually is a mechanical engineer and had worked for the Navel Undersea Center in Pasadena, CA. I believe that is where he first saw a tube constructed of fiberglass. Possibly torpedo tube? He also played drums. He told me he occasionally would set in for Jack Sperling. One of the first drums he built was for Bob Yeager at Pro Drum Shop in California. That was a snare drum that went to Louie Bellson. You can see the snare in one of the pictures posted below. The picture is one of the snare, after it had been in a fire. The date was 1961. Most of us know that Hal Blaine played Blaemire shells, but I found out that Mr. Blaemire never met Hal. That is almost unbelievable. Mr. Blaemire has a set of his own Blaemire’s, in the natural raw fiberglass. They have a high gloss on them. He told me the lugs are some he had designed himself and had die cast. I will post a picture if possible later. After seeing the drum kit I restored, Mr. Blaemire said that he only made one, maybe two sets of this size, tom depth, and double headed. He was trying to remember who had it first, but could not recall.

The apex of the meeting was when he signed one of my shells….it took great effort, and I even said to him, if it was too much, that would be OK…but he seemed to really want to do it….and he did. You can see the signature below and you can also see his photo with me (center) and Joe Voda (left). It was a great afternoon. In closing let me tell you about the graciousness of this couple. Anyone who would meet them would be taken by them. With little knowledge of who I am, they were open and very easy to speak with. Kirsten is an avid amateur photographer and has a gift for taking picture of the great outdoors. And as for Mr. Blaemire….I found him ready and willing to answer any, and all my questions. I hope to stay in contact with them both. It truly was the icing on the cake, for my odyssey, with my Blaemire drums.

This pic is the one that really piqued my interest.;)

"Failing to prepare, is preparing to fail". John Wooden

Blaemire / Jenkins-Martin drums.

http://www.jenkinsmartindrums.com/
Posted on 13 years ago
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Wow! I asked for a quarter and you showered me with silver dollars! Thank you. Great post.

*Somebody needs to write this man's story down. With pictures of the shop and the equipment. I'd buy it. Schitt, I'd like to write it!

**Somebody needs to start making these shells again! (Jerry, are you listening?)

If all that equipment is still available, that would make a great start.

Thanks again for posting that. As someone who really loves drums and the people who make/create them, I eat stuff like that post, right up. Cool1

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 13 years ago
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I really like that 8"x 14" :)

USA DRUMS FOREVER!
Posted on 13 years ago
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Ok, I have to know... does anybody know 'how' (the exact manufacturing process, equipment and materials used,) Allen produced his shells?

Jinx?????

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 13 years ago
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Fibreglass tubes are not that hard to make; however, the bearing edges would be murder to do- one wrong move and your shell is dust...

***full disclosure: I used to build composite bicycle parts.***

Yeah- I'm THAT guy!!!

Dead dogs like rusty fire hydrants!!!
Posted on 13 years ago
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that would be some good info!

they look like just fiberglass but one would REALLY need to know what resin was used!

pan60.com
Posted on 13 years ago
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From bunnyman

Fibreglass tubes are not that hard to make; however, the bearing edges would be murder to do- one wrong move and your shell is dust...***full disclosure: I used to build composite bicycle parts.***

Bunnyman - Give it up, bro! How do you make fiberglass shells? What equipment is needed? What is the process? Talk to me, man, you've got all my attention. I'd love to get the info from somebody who actually knows how to do it. Your time, (and allowing me to pick your brain,) will be most appreciated.

Kiss

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 13 years ago
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Well, it isn't exactly something that can be done with home tools. Tooling up for this venture would be quite expensive, and it would take a few tries before one could do even one shell size, let alone an entire drum kit.

Diamond bit rotary tools are what I used for machining my moulded bicycle frames and such. Carbon fibre regularly ate my tooling at a rate of one new tool per month. I bought my specialised Dremel bits from an aircraft supplier. I was lucky enough to have a great aircraft supply house within an hour of me. I imagine that you could cut a bearing edge the same way that you would for wood; just using cutting bits made from abrasive rather than a blade. But the dust is a HUGE problem...

The green is likely a polyester resin, rather than epoxy. Polyester is cheaper, albeit heavier than epoxy. Polyester could give you the shakes after years of inhaling it...

You can build a mould, or use a mandrel for tubing. Being that mandrels are not generally made for anything too much larger than, say 6" tubing, I would say clamshell mould.

Fibreglass, while it doesn't have to be vacuum-bagged like carbon fibre, does benefit from such a process, as it rids you of extra resin.

Did Mr. Blaemire do a two-part mould or did he wrap around a very, very large mandrel? One would have to look inside the shell to see if there is a mould line...

I am about a year away from being able to produce composites. I signed a seven year non-compete...

Yeah- I'm THAT guy!!!

Dead dogs like rusty fire hydrants!!!
Posted on 13 years ago
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Bunny - You da man! Thanks for the detailed response. I hope, Jinx/Jerry can chime in here to respond to your question. Jinx is as close to a Blaemire expert as you'll find anywhere on the planet.

Thanks again, Bunnyman. Much appreciated! Clapping Happy2

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 13 years ago
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Now, one could build a clamshell mould from a new drum shell raw tube or even a cardboard tube that is the correct size. The tube needs to be cut down the centre, then a something needs to go in the gap the same thickness as the cut to keep the diameter the same. Wax the crap out of that, then 'glass both sides of the mould. You will then have a clamshell mould.

Yeah- I'm THAT guy!!!

Dead dogs like rusty fire hydrants!!!
Posted on 13 years ago
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