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Slingerland Bebop restoration project

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Thought I'd share some pics of my latest resto project. Its a bit of a mismatch of Slingerland eras but, it is all Slingerland. The bass drum is an HSS era 15"x18" Artist Custom series. It was originally gloss lacquer natural maple, but was wrapped in a blue agate finish and fitted with Ludwig lugs and badge as per the customer's request. I had done this work a few years ago for a friend, who has since passed away from cancer, and I ended up buying the it from his estate. Since the time of purchasing the kit, I've parted out and sold off the real Ludwig toms that came with the "kit" and sold off the Ludwig badge and hardware that was fitted to the bass drum.

I then stripped off the blue agate wrap and cleaned up the original finish underneath as best I could, which actually was in pretty good shape still, and filled the extra holes that were dtilled to fit the Ludwig lugs. I ordered repro Slingerland lugs and a repro badge for it, as those went missing somewhere along the way, as well as a Gibraltar double tom mount, as again the orignal Artist Custom mount went missing somewhere along the way as well. I think that has come out rather well.

I then found a mid 70's chrome-o-wood 8x12 in tough shape on ebay and stripped the chrome off, and then applied a natural unfinished maple veneer to it. Sanded it smoooth, then applies 4 coats of clear gloss lacquer to it. The missing hardware from that drum has been located and/or is on the way, so final pics of that are due up later in the week.

I then located a mid-60's 14x14 floor tom on ebay, paid a bit more than I wanted for it, but it was complete. It was already a re-wrap (and a poor job of one at that) and the wrap was already splitting and cracking. Upon removing the wrap on that one I found someone had used part contact adhesive, part hot-melt glue gun glue to adhere the wrap! After removing and sanding that mess down, I had some filling to do to the outer ply, and then applied the same natural unfinished maple veneer to that shell. The gloss lacquer is to be applied today.....again, hopefully finished pics later in the week.

Posted on 13 years ago
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More pics.......

Posted on 13 years ago
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Mid resto pics of the 8x12.....

Posted on 13 years ago
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Mid resto pics of the 14x14......

Posted on 13 years ago
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Nice project, and great job with the veneer!

A few questions about the veneer job. I did some veneering of old Luddies and Slingerland a while ago and had problems with non backed veneer with anything larger than a snare drum.

-Where did you source your maple veneer?

-Is it paper backed or un backed?

-What glue?

-What's you application method?

Thanks

Posted on 13 years ago
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From mountainhick

Nice project, and great job with the veneer!A few questions about the veneer job. I did some veneering of old Luddies and Slingerland a while ago and had problems with non backed veneer with anything larger than a snare drum. -Where did you source your maple veneer? -Is it paper backed or un backed?-What glue?-What's you application method? Thanks

I bought the veneer from Rockler Woodworking. They have a website, but we have one here in town so I just dropped in. I used a paper-backed veneer that had PSA (pressure sensative adhesive) on it. Used a veneer roller and a veneer smoother blade designed for PSA veneer and really no issues with the application. As far as getting it on the 14" floor tom straight, I lined it up with the factory shell seam and made sure it was not drifting as I went. I rolled it on a small section at a time, peeling the paper back off as I went. Seemed to be the easiest method.

Do I like the results? A resounding yes! Would I do veneer again? A resounding NO! LOL! It's not as forgiving as a normal plastic wrap is, you have to be spot on when doing it. The only reason I did do it was to match the bass drum, otherwise I would not have even considered it. If the tom shell's outer ply was maple, I wouldn't have had to even bother with the veneer.

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Thanks.

I ended up going with paper backed and contact cement on an 18" bass drum, but the veneer grain itself was not as nice as the non backed stuff I have gotten nor as nice as what you have on your 14". I will be veneering a 14 x 10 Luddy to complete my rock set sometime soon. I reckon I'll try non backed veneer, since I had good luck on a 5 x 14 snare using the same. The real ***** is getting a good seam without splits with the non backed stuff, and getting it glued on really well without vacuum equipment.

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From mountainhick

Thanks. I ended up going with paper backed and contact cement on an 18" bass drum, but the veneer grain itself was not as nice as the non backed stuff I have gotten nor as nice as what you have on your 14". I will be veneering a 14 x 10 Luddy to complete my rock set sometime soon. I reckon I'll try non backed veneer, since I had good luck on a 5 x 14 snare using the same. The real ***** is getting a good seam without splits with the non backed stuff, and getting it glued on really well without vacuum equipment.

I'd contemplated the "iron-on" method...but decided that this would work fine. The adhesive seems to hold very well once the pressure is applied to it. No bubbles or lifting, suprisingly! I used a warm damp cloth to wet the outer face of the veneer before applying it to the shell. Seemed to help with the bending and preventing cracks and splits. This stuff takes the clear gloss lacquer wonderfully. Just applied the last coat to the floor tom. I'll give it a day or so to cure then wet sand and buff it smooth.

The rack tom is finished (well, the finish is anyway) just waiting for some parts to arrive before final assembly. I know I'm gonna get some flack for the choice of tom mount once I post final pics, but.....it was an orphan with exrta holes and other issues already, so filling the extra holes and a few factory holes was no big deal to me. Also, redrilling the shell for the mount I'm gonna use is no big deal to me either. Since I couldn't see spending 3/4 of my budget for this build on a partial set-o-matic tom mount just to hang the tom, I think I made a good choice. (Ok, its a Yamaha mount system guys......so flame away, but this is MY kit after all, and I am bringing it back to some useful life by going that route.....and it's not like Slingys bring HUGE money anyway, like Gretsch or Ludwig.)

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I agree, nice job on the veneer.

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I'm sorry, I know this is way off track and it touts my own agenda but, where the H do you get parts? I'm restoring a 1951 Slingerland Radio King. I need a three point snare strainer and a couple of beavertail lugs. I have looked high and low on every vintage site I can find. I'm even trying to get a hold of a guy in Italy from AK-Drum that makes repro parts new. I haven't been able to raise him on any level. E-bay has been a bust. I admit defeat I'm all out of ideas. I know that your restoration project is of a little more recent era than mine but have you ever had to hunt down parts?

Anyone else that may read this, any and all help will be appreciated. I turn to you my brothers and sisters in the drumming community for help. I don't want the stuff for free, I'll happily pay for it. Can someone help a brother out?

Thanks,

Ross

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