One guy bought this one and doubt now with its id. He ask me to help, but I'm not whole sure also.
Lugs seems as original but throwoff type is not fully similar to most famous Rogers kinds.
Throwoff plate is marked "Made in England"
Badge is lost - hole only.
What do you think about its?
Thanks to all in advance for answers.
George.
One guy bought this one and doubt now with its id. He ask me to help, but I'm not whole sure also.Lugs seems as original but throwoff type is not fully similar to most famous Rogers kinds.Throwoff plate is marked "Made in England"Badge is lost - hole only.What do you think about its?Thanks to all in advance for answers.George.
George; my guess is, this is not a rogers drum. The badge missing and incorrect throwoff are a big clue here.
Any extra holes where throwoff mounts? Single hole with 2 small screw holes where badge was, or 3 pin holes? If a single hole, this is not Rogers. The only Rogers with single hole would be a Dynasonic, which was a 10 lug snare. Is the shell brass or steel? Does the butt plate look like normal Rogers?
MADE IN ENGLAND might suggest an English Rogers, usually made by Ajax with imported hardware.
The hoops aren't the right profile for English Rogers and the rods aren't correct for English Rogers.
A photo of the inside, the damper and the relative positions of throw,damper and grommet hole might clinch it.
George,it could be an English Rogers, if there are no xtra holes at the throw off or butt the throw may be original,The english rogers used rogers lugs,the swivo hardware was different,and they used shells and hardware made in england by Ajax,the english rogers badge was known to fall off the drum a lot.The shells were made of birch and sometimes Beech and should have no paint,just a clear interior with re rings,that could also be beech or birch.Don't know how many plies,but 3 would not suprise me.
If it is English Rogers it is a very rare drum. There are very few wood shell snares with BT lugs. I have only seen two. This is mine.
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Note the tall hoops used right to the end of production and the sharper "ears" on the hoops. The rods are square at the ends (no shoulder). Black was not a catalogue wrap for ERs. If it is ER there will be two small holes for the logo.
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The damper would look like this. (Different drum)
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Most snares are beech (like this one).
If it is ER then looks like there have been mods.
...Single hole with 2 small screw holes where badge was, or 3 pin holes?... MADE IN ENGLAND might suggest an English Rogers, usually made by Ajax with imported hardware.
There are 3 pin holes on on this one.
From eamesuser
George, it could be an English Rogers, if there are no extra holes at the throw off or butt the throw may be original.
No extra holes
From eamesuser
... the english rogers badge was known to fall off the drum a lot.
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From eamesuser
...The shells were made of birch and sometimes beech and should have no paint, just a clear interior with re rings, that could also be beech or birch. Don't know how many plies, but 3 would not suprise me.
This one have a beech shell and force-rings too.
You confirmed all of my guesses.
Great thanks to all for your help !!
George.
George, three pin holes would tend to suggest that it is an American Rogers but if it were then we should be able to see the damper in your photo (should be to the left of the throw).
If there are not two small holes in the shell opposite the grommet hole then it won't be English Rogers either.
It is still a mystery. Extra photos would really help.
On an english Rogers the wood grain on the inside would would run vertically.Could be 5 ply also.
That strainer is a mid-late 60s Star strainer so it is not a Rogers strainer.
