Quick shout out to the crowd for confirmation: Digging around the Rogers Book by Rob Cook... Page 164 shows that config introduced in 1967 as the "Dave Clark" Londoner. Discontinued in 1968 and re-introduced in 1970 minus the "Dave Clark" name.

I am guessing Dayton tags are only from 1967-1969 when the factory was there... yes??

High hat stand looks like the Swiv-o-matic 4401 used from 1962-1973.

The catalog clips in the book show that set endorsed by Steve Ettleson after it's re-introduction. Sad story there...

That's what I could dig out of the books...

Great drums.. yeah stick a Powertone snare behind there, decorate it with some cymbals like B8's, PST's or ZXT's and have a sweet kit for anybody in the house to bang on who wants to. :) Some day they will say "WOW Dad.. those are Rogers drums!!"

That kit could have come with a COB or COS Powertone snare. Those are a bit more reasonable and actually sound very nice. They are a plentiful on ebay. Yours could have been either, as they switched from COB to COS during that time frame. Cool kit, by the way. Nice condition. Do Not Let It Out Of The House. It will be appreciated in time. If not, buy the lad a Gretsch Catalina Club with some goofy wild finish and let him have at that for a few years. Hold this beautiful Rogers kit aside until he matures and has that epiphany. When he does, he will thank you.

FYI, Rogers started in Cleveland, then moved to Dayton, then Fullerton, then Monrovia. Mid to late 60's sounds right to me.

TommyP will chime in, he's always lurking around the next post....;)

I am a litle confused about the comment from Jim saying that they may be a Londoner model when The paper tags inside clearly read "Holiday" model. Was tha Londoner an offshoot of the Holiday model? Does anyone know when and how long the Holiday kits were made?

Thanks for all your help,

Minnow

The term "Londoner" is in reference to the model setup. It translates to a 20 inch bass, 12 and 13 inch toms, 16 inch floor, 14 inch snare, some hardware and you can play like Dave Clark. Here and Here are some catalog shots of the setup.

Thanks for he catalogue shots. I love the old pictures like that. Maybe I can print then and frame them in my music room.

One question still remains for me though. Is it possible that the drums were manufactured before they were offered in the Dave Clark configuration? I thought I read somewhere on this site that the Holiday model was built between '57 and '61. Is that true. I saw that the silver script Rogers badge was first used in '61 but not in catalogues until '62 and were discontinued around '68-'69. I love the kit, the finish is flawless as far as I can see. Very little pitting on hardware but the hi-hat legs are pitted pretty bad. One last question for now, is the throne important to keep the integrity of the original set?

Thanks again,

Minnow

No. Dayton tags put the date fairly close to what has been stated here.

These pics are from this site. Click on the Vintage Drum Guide in the upper right hand corner. That is THE place to educate yourself.

I don't have an opinion on the throne. Others may weigh in on that.

Lurking??... lurking??... well I never! I hardly "lurk", especially as I moderate this entire forum!... jeeze BBK... you're killin' me here! I think the true meaning of a "lurker" would be a non-member who, well... lurks!! Course you know that I KNOW that you were just funnin'... Indeed! Anyway,

I always would rather our fine membership answer the queries, and they have done so in fine fashion here too! With that said though, I place this Rogers set at approx. 1968, and that is based on the serial numbers plus the speckled "trunk paint" on the interiors. The Dayton on the tags also help of course. The set most probably did come with a COB Powertone snare drum. There really wasn't ever a COS Powertone despite what Rob Cook wrote in his Rogers book... ( and it's an EXCELLENT book too! ) ... it does have a few "mis-truths" here and there though, and the COS Powertone is one of them. I looked for a COS Powertone for YEARS... never found one... and I have in my collection a very early one too: Serial #5001... "Clockface" strainer... etc. This drum dates at 1964, and I thought for sure that it would be COS... but it's not ... it's COB. I'll tell you what though... I would LOVE for someone to step forward with an actual COS Powertone!... that would be awesome. But so far, it hasn't happened. Anyway!...

Nice drums minnow2112! They're keepers!

Tommyp

My COB Powertone is in the 36xx range and is Brass.