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Old 02-25-2010, 03:48 PM
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Default Have You Tried A Restoration Technique That DOESN’T WORK?

New, old, radical, something you heard about or anything else? Please tell your story about what missed the mark so we can learn what you discovered. We will all be better for it, and maybe have a few laughs as you share your wisdom and insight. Please help us not repeat a bad scene!

I’ve only slightly restored a couple of drums, and used info I got here at this forum, so I’m sorry but I can’t offer the first story of things gone bad. Who will be the first?
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Old 02-25-2010, 04:17 PM
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Buffing wheel....knocked the freaking nickel off of some hoops and lugs a few times. Everytime it's been a Ludwig/WFL ('50's) part. They put their plating on really thin.
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Old 02-26-2010, 12:02 PM
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Buffing wheel....knocked the freaking nickel off of some hoops and lugs a few times. Everytime it's been a Ludwig/WFL ('50's) part. They put their plating on really thin.
GoneDrumming - Thanks for your story. That should help someone!

Well I thought with all those who give tips on things to look out for we would have more stories than this by now. We had to learn "what not to do" somehow. There must be more of these stories out there.
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Old 02-26-2010, 12:31 PM
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http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=7012

One of my better moves...LOL
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Old 02-28-2010, 11:46 AM
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I was re-wraping 66 Luddy marching snare. I decided to use the dap non-flammable contact adhesive. Precision recommend 3M, but I couldnt find it anywhere, so I got the dap instead, because another forum member told me it works just as good. I got everything ready. I brushed the glue on the back of the wrap and then brushed it on the shell. Let it dry till tacky and proceeded to stick the wrap to the shell. The glue didn't stick at all! We use Dap Weldwood flamable at my shop. We spray it on with a 2 gallon Binks paint pot, and it really works. I had to remove all the glue off of the wrap and the shell, and ended up using the Killer Hi Bond tape method. After a lot of cussin and elbow grease, I finally got er done and she looks fabulous. I also bought some lugs for this drum from a fellow forum member that were POS and bought some toms with luddy mini classic lugs that didnt fit. I ended up putting the original lugs back on it.









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Old 02-28-2010, 02:29 PM
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Ya know, it's gettin' ta where ma eye twitches ever time you post a new pitcher....where the f&$@ do you find these poor, abused drums!!??? And if there cheap, why ain't ya sharin' with us? Another thing...how the hell do get any money made when always restoring drums....and runnin' outta room, cuz we know you gotta disease, cuz yer hoardin'!
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Old 02-28-2010, 03:27 PM
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Well its like this John,
Im 54 yrs old. I have been in business for myself since I was 20. Mme n my brother left out dad, and grandmother, and went in business for ourselves.
I have worked my a$$ of for over 3 decades. My son, my dad, and 6 others work for me, including a full time book keeper. My shop runs by itself when I'm not there. I see a old POS drum and can see what it could, and should be.
My seamstress sold me that MIJ snare you asked me about for $20. I got the luddy marching snare in a lot i bought off of CL, the luddy floor tom was givin to me for my birthday down at our jamhole etc........ I love to transform a old drum into a work of art.
In the 1st several yrs of our business , we would work till midnight all the time. Me and my brother split up in 1989.

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Ya know, it's gettin' ta where ma eye twitches ever time you post a new pitcher....where the f&$@ do you find these poor, abused drums!!??? And if there cheap, why ain't ya sharin' with us? Another thing...how the hell do get any money made when always restoring drums....and runnin' outta room, cuz we know you gotta disease, cuz yer hoardin'!
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1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
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Old 02-28-2010, 04:34 PM
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I know...I feel the same way. I see a drum that has it's tongue draggin' and it's limping toward the firepalce, begging to be put out of it's misery, and I pick it up and breath life back into it. I was only pokin' fun, not being a jerk-off sbout the shop. I had a good business going in Arizona several years ago. I let it run itself, and managed to get the attention of a national studio, they bought out my contracts, and soon I began having health issues that lead to open heart surgery many years later. Wish I had kept the studio services company, at least today we would have a nice income, rather than what I'm doing today, working for Corporate America, the evil ones. I guess I am just not cut from the cloth that allows me to be a corporate drone. I cannot stand it, and will be unemployed by the end of March. At least they don't normally try to avoid unemployment benefits. The place I work is a meat grinder, running a bout 10-12% turnover every month. The way it is designed is for 95% failure by year 2.
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Old 02-28-2010, 05:32 PM
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poppy79424 and jonnistix - Thanks you guys! I was just about to tell GoneDrumming he was a "one of a kind" because no one else had contributed to this thread, and BANG there is poppy79424 with his Confession.
I’m hoping this thread will become a good resource for what to watch out for.

GoneDrumming - I still think your "one of a kind"...uh...probably!
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Old 02-28-2010, 06:05 PM
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I decided to get "creative" when I was wrapping a bass drum. Normally, I would run tape lengthwise and glue as needed. The combo has served me
well. On this bass, I decided to do short strips all along the depth of it. That wouldn't have been so bad but I decided to pass on the glue. I ended up with a bass wrap with major connection voids about every four inches. Had to pull the wrap which tore it up. I ended up buying a second wrap for the bass. That was an expensive drum.
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