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Zildjian Avedis Cymbals - Date/Stamp help?

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Can anyone help identify this stamp?

This one is on a 15" Zildjian Avedis Hi Hat.

[IMG]http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss110/demdrumbs/hihat1-logo.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss110/demdrumbs/hihat1.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss110/demdrumbs/hihat1-under.jpg[/IMG]

Little stress crack on the centre:

[IMG]http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss110/demdrumbs/hihat1-centre.jpg[/IMG]

The fella I bought 'em from said they were 60s Zildjians.

He seemed an honest guy, who bought his kit in the 60s.

The hats don't look hand hammered to me. But I'm no expert.

The rest of the set that came with the kit look quite obviously hand hammered, most of which have the same stamp.

Judging from this timeline: http://www.winniesdrumkit.nl/hidehitters/Cymbals/Zildjianstamps/timeline.html I'm wondering if they're possibly an earlier era? Maybe a Trans Stamp 1940s-1950s, a 1950s stamp, or if he was wrong, possibly a Thin Stamp 1970s.

Posted on 15 years ago
#1
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Here's the stamp from the 16" ride that came with the kit.

[IMG]http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss110/demdrumbs/ride-16-logo.jpg[/IMG]

And some photos on the cymbal itself.

[IMG]http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss110/demdrumbs/ride-16-under.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss110/demdrumbs/ride-16-top.jpg[/IMG]

I haven't cleaned these up, or got them in the best light to show what I think is the hammering.

Hopefully you can see it on the underside of the cymbal?

Or I could be wrong altogether?

Posted on 15 years ago
#2
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http://www.winniesdrumkit.nl/hidehitters/Cymbals/Zildjianstamps/timeline.html

Well if this info is correct I think that is 70's.

Not a Guru... just interested..
Posted on 15 years ago
#3
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A lot of the information offered on that site is incorrect as I've pointed out before. And no that's not from the 1970's.

That's from the later 1950's.

Posted on 15 years ago
#4
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Thanks guys. Are there any reliable sources for date stamp information out there? I have a bunch of things I'd like to look into.

Posted on 15 years ago
#5
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I just weighed all the cymbals I bought with my kit.

11" Constantinople K Splash: 278g

13" Istanbul K Splash: 564g

15" Avedis Hi Hat top: 892g

15" Avedis Hi Hat bottom: 967g

16" Avedis Ride Cymbal (w/ sizzle holes and sizzles removed): 1154g

18" Avedis Crash Ride: 1418g

20" Avedis Ping Ride: 2125g

Would these be categorised as light, medium or heavy cymbals?

Posted on 15 years ago
#6
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Try this out!

Cymbal weight calculator:

http://users.rcn.com/cwalter1/cymbalweight/

Posted on 15 years ago
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