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Zildjian 26" ride

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From Drumaholic

I've seen many things from Zildjian on their question answer site and elsewhere that don't square with the facts, so I'm not surprised we have another to add to the list.They produced two 32" cymbals for their 375th anniversary which I personally saw. That was 1998. I wonder how their question and answer site would spin that one?You see, the problem here is that you take everything that Zildjian puts out as the gospell truth. I don't.

Very true. I probably have one or two other quotes that list the sizes up to 32".

Posted on 13 years ago
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It seems as if Sabian made some 28's a few years ago. Maybe the dies he is referring to no longer exist because the are now in the Canadian plant and won't admit to it...To think Sabian may have cast those anniversary cymbals???

Just a thought, Gary.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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From gSonor

It seems as if Sabian made some 28's a few years ago. Maybe the dies he is referring to no longer exist because the are now in the Canadian plant and won't admit to it...To think Sabian may have cast those anniversary cymbals???Just a thought, Gary.

I seriously doubt that they would be willing to do Zildjian such a favor in light of the bad blood between them. There would be no motive for them to do such a thing.

Posted on 13 years ago
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From Bri6366

Just to clairfy for other readers, the A Zildjian & CIE Trademark was not acquired by Avedis Zildjian until 1968 when Zildjian acquired the K trademarks. Prior to that, the trademark was property of K Zildjian in Istanbul and Gretsch.

And now since Zildjian's talking points have been interjected into this discussion and have muddied up the waters considerably, "just to clarify for other readers" (as well as for you Brian), that both of these statements are FALSE.

The one concerning the K. Zildjian trademark is demonstrably false just on the face of it. How could Avedis Zildjian have purchased the rights to that trademark in 1968 when the K. Zildjian Co. was still making cymbals under that same trademark until 1977?

The answer is:

They didn't.

Here's the documentation to back it up:

http://photos.imageevent.com/drumaholic/cymbalexamples/K.ZILDJIAN%20and%20CO.htm

Registration date: July 11, 1989

Just in time for the launching of the EAK's.

http://photos.imageevent.com/drumaholic/cymbalexamples/A%20Zildjian%20and%20Cie.htm

Registration date: December 30, 1975

So in addition to what we've seen concerning earlier apparent contradiction in what they've said about the production of extra large cymbals, ie. the evidence of the existance of those two 32" cymbals; we now have these additional two statements that have also proven to be false as well to add to the list.

So for is reason, and for multiple others that I've show to be to be false in the past on other drum/cymbal websites, you should be able to see why I refuse accept anything that Zildjian says in their talking points at face value.

Just because Zildjian says something on their site doesn't make it true. Anything they say warrants further research to verify or refute its verasity.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Does anyone have one of these for sale at below the Maxwells price?

Posted on 13 years ago
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From Snooter

Does anyone have one of these for sale at below the Maxwells price?

You've got the wrong forum. Try the "Wanted to Buy" department.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Unless it broke, I see no reason to throw a 31" casting die into the trash, to keep competition from produceing some, I see no reason Zildjian would sell it off. So what happened to the large casting die ?

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Posted on 13 years ago
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From OddBall

Unless it broke, I see no reason to throw a 31" casting die into the trash, to keep competition from produceing some, I see no reason Zildjian would sell it off. So what happened to the large casting die ?

Its in a pizza parlor in Naples.

You know,......the one that advertises, "The Worlds Largest Pizza"?

Yeah, I got your casting die, right there. Come and get it.

Go in the back and ask for Vincento. He'll fix you right up. But just make sure that you have your life insurance paid up before you do.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Ole Vincento will get in touch with his female side when he finds out how I put sausage on that pizza !!

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

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Posted on 13 years ago
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From Drumaholic

I seriously doubt that they would be willing to do Zildjian such a favor in light of the bad blood between them. There would be no motive for them to do such a thing.

Yes i would agree but it would be ironic wouldn't it... Just thinking out loud. Any reason why the modern era of Zildjian is so willing to put out misinformation about stuff they made?

Gary

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Posted on 13 years ago
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