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Zildjian 13" Hi Hat question

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I picked up another interesting pair of hats today. 13" this time. They look to be 1960's based on the stamp but I'm not 100% sure. Top cymbal weighs 930g and the bottom weighs 1050g. No "zildjian" ink anywhere but on the top surface of the top hat is inked "medium" and on the inside surface of the bottom is inked "medium concert". I haven't seen this "concert" ink before. I'm pretty sure these are indeed hi hats based on where the ink stamps are. I don't know anything about concert cymbals but I assumed they'd be suspended or something?? Any insight much appreciated.

Steve

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1967 Slingerland 12,13,16,20 White Satin Flame
1968 Slingerland 12,14,16,20 Light Blue Pearl
Posted on 10 years ago
#1
Posts: 2148 Threads: 177

Great 60s hats...

For 13s ...there med to heavy..

I have a pair of 13s...same erra..same stamps..weight is 635g top & 950g bottom..

Also has the lite ink markings (Thin) on the top CYM...

I think I have 5 different sets of hats...but these are Always my 1st pick...

Bop iT / Til U Drop iT.

ROGER's
1964 Cleveland,.18/14/12 in WMP
1966 Cleveland, 20/14/12 O'natural.
Fullerton,...20/16/13/12 Silver Glass

WFL
1957 B/R Super Classics In WMP

Snares..
Wood & COB Powertones,
Wood & COB Dynasonics,
57 Jazz Festival

Zildjian avedis cymbals.
40s/60s era.
Posted on 10 years ago
#2
Posts: 197 Threads: 27

Does yours also say "concert" instead of "hi hat"? I've never seen "concert" inked on a cymbal before.

Steve

1967 Slingerland 12,13,16,20 White Satin Flame
1968 Slingerland 12,14,16,20 Light Blue Pearl
Posted on 10 years ago
#3
Posts: 113 Threads: 6

Someone was recently selling a pair of 15" cymbals that were marked Concert Band on eBay.

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Scott

Posted on 10 years ago
#4
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Interesting. Mine don't say "band" on them. Those auction 15's look like 1950's era (lack of 3 dots).

Steve

1967 Slingerland 12,13,16,20 White Satin Flame
1968 Slingerland 12,14,16,20 Light Blue Pearl
Posted on 10 years ago
#5
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Yes those 15's do look like 50s small stamps. I've seen plenty of ink designations of cymbal types going back much earlier than that (at least to Trans Stamps) owned by collectors. It was one of the major innovations by the Avedis Zildjian Company. But I've never known much about them. The answer would probably be in old Catalogs (or scans of old Catalogs).

I don't know the difference between "CONCERT" and "CONCERT BAND" in terms of weight or function, but the font looks familiar. And both would tend to be heavier than the High Hats back then. But they should be more like the High Hat weights in more modern times and certainly suitable for use on a drum kit.

Posted on 10 years ago
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