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That is one Italian made cymbal, a Zanchi Vibra. I don't know too much, but Zanchi changed their name to Zanki in the 70's somewhere (that's a start for dating it :P).

Anywho, I think it should be B20. And it seems to be in nice shape. Cool1

I can't say a thing about value, however

Thanks MrTurd. I wrote to a dealer on Ebay. I'll see what they have to say.:D

Zanchis are generally really good cymbals but as with all of them , the weight relative to size is the issue. Rotocasting was their thing, which they invented and which eventually made its way to UFIP after Zanchi quit but the early ones are not rotocast. They are B-20 but again as with all cymbals it is the hardening and tempering that really determines the final outcome. They don't sell for as much as they should, sometimes for almost nothing but compared to other cymbals of their era, they compare well---the only pies that one would probably place on a par or above from the 60's would be K,A, Super Zyn,Formula 602,Ufip,some Tosco,some Zilcos and the odd unknown handhammered Turkish jobby. They were hand hammered but due to the rotocasting they required less.

Vibra ,Zanki and Revere were other names ,on them, although revere was a marketing firm and had other really crappy stamped cymbals branded with that name as well. The Zanchis always were stamped as such, sometimes with the names Fiorello & Figli or F & F applied as well and sometimes a Crest. I have one 20" ride that is quite light and it is not a great cymbal but it is the only one of the 8 that I have that is subpar---if you can get an 18" in the 1500. -----2000gm. range , I would expect it to be quite good.

I have an old Zanchi Vibra 14" thin crash. Good disk. Reminds me a lot of old Zildjians!

Wow -thanks for the informative response, calfskin.

I just weighed it: 1639gm, so it's in the good range. I need to part with it, so I'll see how it does on Ebay, auction style.

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FYI:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-ZANCHI-F-F-14-HI-HAT-CYMBALS-ITALY-/150613719168?pt=Vintgae_Drums_Percussion&hash=item231146f880#ht_2305wt_902

[COLOR="Green"]I like these cymbals, but honestly one cannot suggest they are Avedis-like. Yes they are B20 and yes they are handmade. They tend to be light (the Vibras, which are from the '50's and '60's, BTW) and cooler/icier/crispier sounding than a Zildjian. They are brighter cymbals.

Have been told by some old EU players that these were standard fare in school band rooms....they were not intended to be high-end. I find the 'hats and crashes to be good...the rides, not so much.

In the '70's they changed the company name to Zanki (although Fiorello Zanchi and Sons still ran it) and THOSE cymbals are much more A-like...heavier, lathing quite similar to an old A.

In the 80's, they invented Rotocasting and subbed out the UFIP facility for their work. These are the Rotocast models of the 80's...very different from their predecessors. Finally in the late 80's they could no longer compete and keep the biz afloat so they folded into UFIP.

A 18" Vibra in good shape should fetch about $100-120.....given the market now....[/COLOR]

Thanks, Jaye.

It's on ebay now starting at 100. We'll see how close your estimate is! (There's no prize though Violin)

Well, it didn't get 100 on Ebay.

Anyone interested?