push it to the top! :D

push it to the top!

Hi,

It may be a little late for this, but I recently acquired a 22" Istanbul 'agop' signature cymbal, with the green logos, Agop signature. To make a long story short, it seems to be some kind of counterfeit : the sound is very different, and the stamp is not the same. As far as I can tell, the stamp has written on it (photo uploaded, hopefully):

ISTANBUL

ZILCILER LTD (??)

A TOMURCUK

C TOMURCUK (??)

HAND MADE

IN TURKEY

You can see the crescent logo just above the writing. From my meager internet researches, I judge it comes from late 1980s, but I don't really know.

FWIW, I don't like the sound of it and I'm trying to get rid of it. I play jazz, prefer lighter cymbals ; it's too heavy for my taste, somewhat aggressive and 'gong'-like. It does NOT sound like the newer agop Signatures.

I'll post this message elswhere if it helps identify what/when the cymbal actually is.

Cheers

Rob

Doh!, disregard my previous message here, my cymbal is indeed an agop signature, those were the stamps used up until 6-7 years ago, they've changed several times over the years. The cymbals were indeed heavier than they are now. So, definitely not from 1980s, and definitely not a zilciler or ziljiler or anything else from that time. Nothing to see here, my mistake. (I'm still looking to get rid of it though)

Rob

Hello

I have Zildjiler HiHats for sale. Are you still interested? They are a bit more then 12".

Best

F.

hey farmusic, thank your very much but I am looking for 15" hihats and cymbals bigger than 18". best to you too.

okidoki - new year new luck? still looking for Zildjiler and Zilciler Cymbals! :D

they're still out there for sale:

https://www.google.com/search?q=istanbul+pre+split+cymbals&source=lnms&tbm=shop&biw=1024&bih=635

I used to have many

Hey jda, thanks for the hint. I am looking more into the 1980s Zildjiler and Zilciler Cymbals at the moment.