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Wrapping Drums with Vinyl

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I have these premiers I have mentioned in a few other threads.

The wrap is split and tore on the floor tom and bass drum. I removed the wrap off of the floor tom and discovered the shells are some sort of particle board/plywood hybrid. I have been debating on what to wrap them in. being as how they seem to be cheap drums, I don't wanna put a lot of money into them.

I have been researching all the drum suppliers wraps and the cheap ones on ebay. I don't want to spend a lot on them, but I also don't want to go through all that work and put some cheap ass wrap on them that's gonna scratch real easy. As some of y'all know I own a upholstery shop. I have piles and piles on vinyl samples. I have been looking at some that would look pretty cool on some drums. The thing I don't know is this: Will the vinyl dampen the sound projection? Most vinyl has a knit backing and the vinyl is somewhat soft to the touch. It also has some stretch, some more that others. Black Panther finish is some sort of vinyl, but It isn't soft to the touch, and I'm sure it isn't stretchy.

Furthermore, I told my brother about the premiers and he suggested that they may have been some experimental shells that could possibly be worth something.

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 14 years ago
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Well...hmmm...you really can't go wrong at this point. If you do apply the vinyl and change your mind later, it might be a bear to remove. Beyond that, it will most likely dampen it a tad. The reason that traditional wraps are 'ok' for most drummers and manufacturers is that they are fairly stiff (relatively speaking) and are applied fairly tight to the shell. That reduces the barrier to vibration transmission from the wood. When Slingerland (and a few bonged out drummers) wrapped their shells in blue jean material and such, they didn't consider the overall impact of blanketing the shells (which is what they were doing in effect). This is my take on it. Others may agree or disagree, depending on their historical perspective.

Posted on 14 years ago
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Blanketing is a better word. That's exactly what I was wondering, but with the MDF shells, they are harder than wood, and maybe a tad bit of blanketing wouldn't hurt.

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 14 years ago
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Hey poppy, have you gone to the Premier forum and aked those guys what the shells are?

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Coffee...16613138379603
Posted on 14 years ago
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I have gone there and they are as perplexed as I am. They couldnt believe it.

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 14 years ago
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Damn poppy, you are the only person on the planet that has ever stripped one of those shells, and now the whole world is looking at you as the new Premeir shell expert.....Excited....Bowing....Laughing H

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Coffee...16613138379603
Posted on 14 years ago
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Premier shell expert huh? LoLoLoLo Im just a guy with a drum problem!

I have thought hard about sending these to you to fix up and give to a underprivileged kid.

From jonnistix

Damn poppy, you are the only person on the planet that has ever stripped one of those shells, and now the whole world is looking at you as the new Premeir shell expert.....Excited....Bowing....Laughing H

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 14 years ago
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From poppy79424

Premier shell expert huh? LoLoLoLo Im just a guy with a drum problem! I have thought hard about sending these to you to fix up and give to a underprivileged kid.

You know, that is not a bad idea. Have you ever tried the process I used for a few over the years? It is time consuming, but it is really the absolute cheapest way to refinish, other than staining.

1) Decide on a color

2) Stain the shell in a similar color. This is something you have to think about for a minute.

3) Apply a base coat of lacquer or poly, and I am getting to where I prefer lacquer.

4) Then, while the lacquer is still wet, sprinkle the first layer of glitter all over. This is a messy process, but if you stick wotj over and over, after about 4 coats/layers, you will start to see the full effect of the glitter. It is truly a site to behold. The color is just simply amazing, and no picture you will ever take can fully show off the incredible effect and depth.

mcjnic also helped me to further refine the technique by suggesting I put just a kiss of the base stin in the first few layers. It adds a depth and character you could not get any other way. Lightly sand between coats and then for the top two or three layers use clear gloss and to top it off, after the final coat/layer, use a good, clear high gloss poly. This is only for the very last as it will add a good solid strong coating on the top.

Like I said, it is time consuming, but the effects are so dramatic, you may never use a wrap again, if it something you know will not devalue because of it.

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Coffee...16613138379603
Posted on 14 years ago
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Poppy, I've seen photos of jonnistix's glitter finishes. They're truly stunning.

If you're still thinking of wrapping, though, and you don't want to spend a ton of money, I noticed that Jammin' Sam has a special on White Pearl wrap. They're charging $149 for enough to do a five-piece kit. Not bad!

Kits:
1950s Gretsch Name Band in Midnight Blue Pearl (13/16/22/14sn)
1965/66 Ludwig Club Dates rewrapped in Black Diamond Pearl (12/15/20)
Posted on 14 years ago
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I have a white marine pearl slingy expresso kit, but thats the best price ive heard for real wrap.

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 14 years ago
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