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Would you or wouldn't you?-Part 2,347

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Another of many in a series:

Would you buy or punt? That is the question. No pictures (at a local store), but I shall describe (hopefully) adequately enough for you to render a verdict:

The kit in question is 12"/16"/20" red sparkle with matching wood hoops. The kit appears to be a Pearl branded kit-Luan with re-rings. The reason I say "appears" is that the floor tom is certainly Pearl branded (the drum key operated leg brackets say so-straight legs by the way), but the bass drum and rack tom lugs seem just slightly different, so it might be a mish-mash of brands. The floor tom has an internal tone control, the rack tom does not. The interiors all appear the same, though.

Also, the rack tom "thumb" bracket is diamond shaped. Is that indicative of Pearl? The bass drum has a rail mount ("thumb" bracket with circular angle adjustment-much like a Ludwig) and a cymbal bracket with the cymbal arm missing (of course!). The cymbal bracket is the "baseball bat" style that raises and lowers the acceptor bracket (mounted on the shell) by turning the "bat". I have never seen the cymbal arm that actually fits into one of these. Also, would this be indicative of Pearl?

The wrap on the rack tom and bass drum (the possibly non-Pearl drums) seems to be slightly different than the floor tom. The sparkle has tighter "grains" on the rack/bass, is a little bit lighter in color than the floor tom, and is smoother to the touch. Underneath a small section of missing wrap on the bass drum (small abrasion from tom rash), it appears to be silver sparkle wrap underneath, although I can't tell for sure. I am guessing that maybe the previous owner had some orphans and bought some of that sparkle drum wrap contact paper crap on ebay and wrapped his orphans to match. Just a guess on that, though.

The original spur brackets are missing (holes not filled in), and have been replaced by modern Premier spurs, but with the telescoping bottom parts (legs with rubber feet) missing entirely! There is also some possible mild water damage inside the bass drum and a little bit of cracking/drying out of the Luan here and there, but certainly nothing worse than I have seen before. As an added bonus, the front head on the bass drum is a calfskin WFL!

They (the store) are asking $249 for it, which I think we can all agree is too much, based on their condition. The lowest they will go is $175, because it is a consignment and they already paid the previous owner the money (minus their selling fee). Kinda dumb to pay the previous owner before they sell, but that's just me.

I know it's hard without pictures, but generally speaking, I still think it is a bit high, especially considering the missing original spurs, missing cymbal arm (although that's common) and the possible mish-mash/re-wrap of rack and bass. I am more inclined to say about the $125 range is more fair and accurate.

What say you?? For what it's worth, this would serve as a cheap "rehearsal only" kit that I would leave at my guitarists house, so I wouldn't feel too bad if they got dinged, dented, or were used by an guitarist or other random, over enthusiastic guest who thinks they can try to play the drums.

I welcome your opinions. Thanks!

Posted on 11 years ago
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If you don't care if it get banged up at practice by yourself or others, I personally wouldn't want something nice and original. I say if it's just a players kit for rehersal you should forget about originality and decide if $175 is too much for the condition and playability.

Posted on 11 years ago
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...And yes it was stupid for them to pay the customer first. That kind of means it isn't consignment any more.

Posted on 11 years ago
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$100 or pass...on thé frankenPearl kit

Bop iT / Til U Drop iT.

ROGER's
1964 Cleveland,.18/14/12 in WMP
1966 Cleveland, 20/14/12 O'natural.
Fullerton,...20/16/13/12 Silver Glass

WFL
1957 B/R Super Classics In WMP

Snares..
Wood & COB Powertones,
Wood & COB Dynasonics,
57 Jazz Festival

Zildjian avedis cymbals.
40s/60s era.
Posted on 11 years ago
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I agree with Rims n Skins $100.00 would be tops

with the problems and mods plus the mismatch

red sparkle is pretty common too

so no great shakes as for being a rare color

I paid $50.00 for these red sparkle Pearl

(no badges but the tom and leg mounts say Pearl)

just a 22" eight lug bass drum and 12" hi tom

The floor tom I already had hanging around the orphanage

that drum also says "Pearl" on the leg mounts

the red sparkle finish is a lot more on the dull side with almost an orange sort of hue to the red

While the bass drum and tom are a nice, vibrant, ruby, sort of red ..

Those two drums are super clean and original looking

with the original spur brackets and no extra holes but minus both of the short rubber footed chrome rods for the spurs

The other red sparkle kit pictured with the external muffler

Is made up of all used and abused orphaned shells

The bass drum shell is a "Tempro", the two mounted toms are "Kingston"

The floor tom is "Pearl" and the snare drum is a "Stewart"

coincidentally that Tempro bass drum has only the bottom half remaining

of the very same baseball bat style cymbal arm bracket that you had described.

I have also seen that same style cymbal arm bracket on both "Lyra" and "Olympian" bass drums

The funny thing is all those random orphaned shells

match much better than the three "Pearl" drums mentioned above ..Grrrrrrrrrr!!!!!

But yeah $100.00 even 125.00 if you have your heart set on them

but I would walk away for any more ..something better will pop up for you eventually

Good luck ...Kenwood

Posted on 11 years ago
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