It is hard to know what you mean by "natural" and as far as organic----that's an overused term that really doesn't apply to cymbals at all.

I am assuming you mean; cymbals made completely from scratch by a company or artisan. Leaving out the actual mining of the ore and smelting of the metal,I guess you could start with, the actual blending and melting of the alloy and pouring of the ingots.From there the cymbal would have to be milled,hammered and lathed by hand.

I guess there are quite a few of these still. Sabian does some, pretty much any of the Turkish companies,do still(although, purchased ingots and machine hammering might be used at some of them)and the Chinese stuff. Anyone using machine hammering I suppose should be left out,as would those biggies using sheetstock to cut cymbal blanks from.

One would think, the independent cymbal artisans out there would qualify but I guess that would be only if they mixed their own formula and poured their own ingots. I think most would be buying blanks.

--not very specific is it but it's a start.

definitely the independents of the cymbal world.

Bettis

Stein

Lauretsin

Skibba

etc

Does Wuhan count? What are the top ones?? Popularity and price-wise//

AS for prices and qualities, Agean is the most affordable hand made cymbals maker, IMO. In addition, Wuhan, Dream, Amedia, Supernatural, Istanbul Mehmet and others.

I "think" I know what you mean here. Correct me if I'm wrong but are you referring to cymbals that are not heavily worked after being formed?

If so, I would have to say some of the real old K's and Turk cymbals. from like the early 1900's and older.

Old Zildjian Earth rides and maybe old Sab Leopards.

All of this stuff is not made any more and will not be easy to find or cheap.

Yeah!

Does anyone have an opinion on the old 60s Pashas ?