I believe one is an Acro (?) not sure of anything on the other...
The Acro (if it is that) is missing the snare wires but looks great otherwise.. the other drum is a complete wood shell pretty beat up and painted blue.. but I think it is certainly a vintage Ludwig drum.
I have an old Slingerland red sparkle bass drum and I am learning re-wrapping skills on a rough old Slingerland 12" tom and making a very rough old slingy field snare into a floor tom to match.. so I need a snare to complete a vintage 4 piece homemade jazz kit for my son to play on.
My choices could be pick up the Acro.. or buy the old painted one and wrap it red sparkle...
Thoughts.. fair prices??? Sorry bad pictures again.