Take a listen to the cymbal work here,... choke cymbal work really.... small and thin like 7-8" or larger cymbals?
Any ideas fellas? I'm curious as to what other's opinions are on these sounds?
Thanks boys!
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TheHotIron - Sounds a little thick (gauge) to me. As you probably already know, 10" was common at that time, and some "stock" cymbals were small thick and clanky (not Zildjian like). Larger china cymbals (12-14) don't seem to sound that way to me. IMHO as far as I can see too, Lonnie Johnson is not shown in that set of pictures, even though the guy in the hat is supposed to be him. Do they mention who the drummer was?
[COLOR="DarkRed"]1926 would probably be a set of sock cymbals...they looked like this....but might'a been on a low-boy hi-hat stand (the cymbals only were about 18" off the ground) instead of a regular height one.
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Cool!
Well I know for a fact that the fellows played a lot of that rhythm with the quick sizzles and stops by doing it via choke cymbal, let go, then hold again,...
However yes, it certainly does sound like a sock setup.
I have several thicker 10 and 11" cymbals from that exact era and none get you that sound. I do have one very thin one from that era that's actually starting to bend a bit,... that's the one that gets me closest to that sound.
To be honest a lot of fellows in the mid to late 20s still were not that "into" the mid height sock cymbals just yet,... in fact Baby Dodds was simply not a fan of them at all,.. of course this is not Dodd's work on that track.... just for reference though.
Sounds like a 10" or 12" fairly thin cymbal to me. I have a 12" Zilco that I found abandoned in a "junk" closet at a school which was founded in 1922. No idea how old it is, but I've used it for the same type of sound with good results.
Could be half of a hi hat pair, or just a tiny crash/splash. Sounds very similar though. Factor in the recording technology of the day and the fact that they used to keep the drums far away from the mic, or maybe mic's, if they happened to have 2 available.
TheHotIron - Sounds a little thick (gauge) to me. As you probably already know, 10" was common at that time, and some "stock" cymbals were small thick and clanky (not Zildjian like). Larger china cymbals (12-14) don't seem to sound that way to me. IMHO as far as I can see too, Lonnie Johnson is not shown in that set of pictures, even though the guy in the hat is supposed to be him. Do they mention who the drummer was?
In my earlier post, as quoted above, I did mean "stock" (as what came with a set) not "sock". I hadn't realized I could be misunderstood, although I’m not saying I was misunderstood. Just want to be clear.
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