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What is near mint condition??

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From OldSchool

KEVIN:This is exactly why phrases and statements like "near mint", "excellent condition for its age", "needs a little TLC", etc. shouldn't be used in item descriptions. They're all simply too subjective. The old saying that "one man's trash is another man's treasure" can also be applicable in the reverse, as seems to be the case here.In regard to the rust issue, I'd highly recommend the use of a product called "Evapo-Rust". It was brought to my attention by a fellow forum member a short time ago. It's truly amazing how well it works.Good luck with your "project!"

Thanks ,man....

It's looking better already

I guess I will shoot a coat of clear enamel to try and thwart any more paint loss.

Does this sound feasible?

Kevin
Posted on 13 years ago
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Hi,

Let me add my experience in regards of fiction (= offer) and reality (= item in my hands lateron).

Three years ago I bought a pair of Paiste hihats on ebay USA, which clearly were discribed as having "no dents" and the pics also didn't show anything - but indeed there were two (major) dents at the bell of the top one.

Sending them back was out of question (I live in Germany, they were parceled in Frisco), so I stated as my feedback to this auction:

'ok ... but next time stating "no dents" for a cymbal - there should be no dents!' Jumping2

His feedback = his reply (or should I say: revenge) to me:

'Ok but too picky for the price paid !' (The price I paid was approx. US-$ 100.)

Bittersweet conclusion: Kevin, you're too picky as well!

As you already stated it: make the best out of this matter and be glad, that you just paid a little money for it.

I am sure that we all here know what 'mint' has to mean, in case that we buy from other fellows here.

Ralf

Vintage STAR (= Pre-Tama) website: www.star-drums.de
Posted on 13 years ago
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I would have sent it back having gotten my refund. That snare does not cut it. Period. A little kid can see how off that description is. IF you wanted close to mint, then that's what you should pay for.

Posted on 13 years ago
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I would do before/after pics and send them to the guy!

"Always make sure your front bottom BD lugs clear the ground!"
Posted on 13 years ago
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I definitely gave the guy a piece of my mind by email..... he had a very low feedback, and a negative would have wrecked him.

Maybe I'm too nice, but I left him a positive FB, but negative comments about condition not being even close to the description.

Thanks for the comments everyone... like I said, I'm not griping, this is just to help others that may not know.

Ralf.... here's my purpose/point with this post.

I answered a For Sale post not long ago about some items in "good +" condition, and asked for some pics.

When I got the pictures, the items were covered in rust head to toe.

I asked the seller about the condition, and his perception of "good +" was that if the item still works good, then it's "good+". This guy has been around here for a while, and drumming long enough to have let his gear deteriorate to the condition it was in.

So, not everyone has a good handle on condition, and rating it to within a reasonably agreed upon degree of accuracy.

Kevin
Posted on 13 years ago
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Just got her done.

Took about six hours to do a complete tear down, rust removal,

and lubrication down to the t-rod receivers.

Shot a coat of clear enamel to stop the flaking of the paint job.

I know, perhaps not in the purist mode of restoration, but this one I may have re-painted anyway (gasp) by a cat Johnnydrums turned me onto. It just depends how the Clubdates from JD match up to this one..

Looks much better, and after a 30 minute test run, I like the sound as well.

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Kevin
Posted on 13 years ago
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From kevins

Just got her done.Looks much better, and after a 30 minute test run, I like the sound as well.

Much better than before.......if you have access to a buffing wheel on a bench grinder and some rouge compound, I bet those lugs would shine up even more. :D

Posted on 13 years ago
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Thanks man.... that's on my list for early next year.... more tools.

I've have really limited by capacity with this restoration bug I have by not buying some better tools by now.

A definite "must do" very soon !!

Kevin
Posted on 13 years ago
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