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What can you tell me about this John Grey & Sons Broadway Set? Last viewed: 10 seconds ago

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My family recently discovered this old red sparkle wrap drum set in an attic. It belonged to our grandfather. The badge on the set says "John Grey & Sons Broadway".

I'm thinking about buying new hoops/heads for it. But, I dont know anything about drums and would like to see what people on this forum can tell me about the set, its history, and whether or not its worth trying to make playable?

Here are some pics:

album 1; http://imgur.com/a/mln3J

album 2: http://imgur.com/a/nHZdP#0

Thanks!

Posted on 13 years ago
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That will be a great little drum set when it is cleaned up. I would not replace any parts that are not broken. A little grungy is far more preferable than a replacement part. I liked my set of John Grey drums. They now reside with another collector nearby who also likes them a lot.

This was the lower of two drum set lines by a long-time English drum company. The lower line was very good with fewer embellishments than it's more expensive sister line. They are every bit as good as premier drums from the same period. I estimate your drums to be from the 1960's British Invasion/Beatles era.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 13 years ago
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Could be a very nice little kit. Some of the pieces are not John Grey Broadway-----the Floor tom looks to be a 60's Japanese one in a similar wrap. As far as changing hoops and heads. Be carefull on that----especially on the snare. John Grey used cast 6 hole hoops on those drums-----impossible to replace. Only stamped hoops with flared out lips-----so called triple flanged and the occasional stamped so-called S hoops will be found with 6 holes. Depending on their date of mfg. the hoops may also be slightly smaller than the now standard 14". The heads may all be calfskin ,so you might want plastic ones for convenience but if the skins are still good-----they are very nice to play ,if you look after them. If you do decide to change over the items mentioned----let me know; I will probably want to buy them.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Thanks for the feedback.

I think the metal hoops are fine. The wooden hoop on the kick is in bad shape.

Do you think that will be easy enough to replace?

Also, apart from the hoops, are there any issues/concerns about putting some new heads on the drums? Are they standard sizes etc?

Posted on 13 years ago
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Those bass drum hoops look restorable.

Posted on 13 years ago
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I had a set of those when I was a kid. Mine were white marine pearl. I remember trying to change the heads but the remos I bought did not fit. I hope you have better luck.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Hi Folks,

I've taken some of your suggestions and am trying to clean up

the original Broadway set and tighten up the heads to make it playable.

I have one more question and I'm hoping you all can help with this.

I am having trouble with my snare stand and my hi hat stand.

Neither will sit flat on the floor. The snare stand has some kind of screw

sticking out of the bottom that throws it off balance (pics below).

And, the hi hat stands up, but once i start pressing the pedal, it falls off balance and falls over. (pics below).

I've put up two albums showing the problems with the stands. They look original and I'd like to keep them if they can be used. Can any one tell me what the problem is with them? I especially want to know what is up with the screw coming out of the bottom of the snare stand.

here's the snare stand pics:

http://imgur.com/a/lhY3i#0

here's the hihat stand pics:

http://imgur.com/a/Dfgvg/all

Thanks!

Posted on 13 years ago
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The John Grey and other English brands of stands that I have owned have one or more large diameter (about 3") thick washers that go over the tightening screws on the bottom to prevent the legs from splaying out completely flat. Or, in the case of your hihat stand--turned upward. The largbe washers cover the inside ends of the legs to prevent those ends from touching the floor. Rubber or vinyl leg bumpers (condoms) will also help to better position the legs.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 13 years ago
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Thanks LeedyBDP

Based on the pictures I posted, is that washer missing from my snare stand?

And, if the legs do not go down all the way (completely flat) I'm not sure how it would stand up, because they would be angled up away from the floor.

Can you explain what you mean or share a pic if possible?

Thanks

Posted on 13 years ago
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I think that the large heavy washers are missing. Fender washers can be found in good hardware stores. The legs should form a tripod that allows the wing screw on the threaded rod to sit a few inches off the ground.

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