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What are these Zildjians?

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I received a set of 14" hats and two 18" crashes with a kit I recently purchased. Here are some pics. Any info you can give me is appreciated.

The Hi Hats are mixed. One is bronze colored, the other is silver.

The bronze one's stamp:

[IMG]http://lh4.ggpht.com/_BW0fGOsjl70/SirUWfesmYI/AAAAAAAAEMo/1cpD8f9gUvI/s400/IMG_2901.JPG[/IMG]

The crashes are the same - one bronze, one silver.

The silver one's stamp (same as the the crash):

[IMG]http://lh3.ggpht.com/_BW0fGOsjl70/SirUWjpGLyI/AAAAAAAAEMw/-NAniRz7oLc/s400/IMG_2906.JPG[/IMG]

The silver crash:

[IMG]http://lh5.ggpht.com/_BW0fGOsjl70/SirUWZHNZsI/AAAAAAAAEMs/UFerwM2UVnM/s512/IMG_2907.JPG[/IMG]

The bronze crash stamp:

[IMG]http://lh6.ggpht.com/_BW0fGOsjl70/SirUWhRBeUI/AAAAAAAAEM0/ROuXy6Kvk8I/s400/IMG_2908.JPG[/IMG]

If insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, is it insane to practice?
Posted on 15 years ago
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[COLOR="DarkRed"]The first stamp is likely a '60's. Maybe worth $50 or so.

The second stamp looks like a transitional stamp, meaning late '40's-early 50's. If it is a good weight (not over 1000g, say) it's probably worth about $120-150.

The third one appears to be a '70's....maybe worth $80 for an 18".

Those are all good cymbals, better than most of what Zildjian produces anymore....[/COLOR]

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Posted on 15 years ago
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Great, thanks for the info, Jaye.

So what is the silvery coating on these?

If insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, is it insane to practice?
Posted on 15 years ago
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[COLOR="DarkRed"]THAT I don't get...usually trans-stamps don't look like that...matter of fact, old Zildjians tend not to look silvery. Am wondering if perhaps it was just one of those cymbals which spent it's life getting polished up often (?)

Would you say the pic you have here is representative of the color in real life ?[/COLOR]

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Posted on 15 years ago
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I don't think polishing is the reason, here because that is representative of their color. Also, if you notice, the center hole is surrounded in the "normal" color. And, I know that the silver is the top coat because there is a scratch on the surface where the bronze color can be seen through. :confused:

I took a pic this morning outside with a "normal" Zildjian in the middle of them for comparison. But, both of the silvery ones have the same stamp - heavy "Z" and "Co". :confused:

[IMG]http://lh4.ggpht.com/_BW0fGOsjl70/SjOlKeIvs-I/AAAAAAAAEOw/WHJSUHKExhQ/s912/IMG_2946.JPG[/IMG]

By the way, I haven't even had a chance to see how they sound - I'm hoping to get to that today.

If insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, is it insane to practice?
Posted on 15 years ago
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So what is the silvery coating on these?

By the way, I haven't even had a chance to see how they sound - I'm hoping to get to that today.

I predict "silvery overtones"

Kevin
Posted on 15 years ago
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I finally got around to weighing these guys. The categories are from the cymbal weight calculator.

18" Crash - 70's (Hollow Logo on bottom) - 1401.1g (extra light)

14" 60's hi-hat - 919.6g (light)

14" Trans Stamp hi-hat - 733.4g (extremely light)

16" Trans Stamp Crash - 1601.1g (med/light)

Any other thoughts on the silvery coating?

Do the weights change the value estimates?

If insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, is it insane to practice?
Posted on 15 years ago
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i dunno - the coated one looks like a Platinum series, but obviously has the wrong stamp on it... i dunno - I've seen a lot of guys polish the absolute hell out of their cymbals, and they never take a silver tone like that one did - so - it would be a very slight possibility, but this could be a Platinum prototype - thought those chances are slim... but still - I've ran accross even more weird situatuions before. SOmetimes prototypes just sorta end up in random places..

but the only thing that tells me that its not a prototppe is that the area right around the bell hole is NOT coated by about 1/2 inch... hard to say what it is really, or why it looks like that.

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