So on a side bar here, then in theory all 5.5 and one badge over from throw could be dean barret snares in 1961/2/3
What are 60's Oyblack Jazzfests fetching ? Last viewed: 4 hours ago
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp
once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
I've seen and heard that 30K story from different folks.
Some proof of that number would be nice to see............
I don't about anyone else, but as a fan of the Beatles, Ringo, and anything Ludwig related, i have to say that these stories of $30k is quite simply put, insane..LOL !
We're talking about a chunk of wood , some metal and plastic.. I mean , i understand the value and significance that finish, decade, and model entails but.. whoa !
I would think that this snare drum shouldn't go for more than $1500 and that's a maximum amount that anybody should have to pay.. A friend of mine was selling a kit at $3k and that was a very decent price.. But a single drum at $33k ? ..That requires a trip to Nurse Ratchet's psych ward.. Lol ! If i ever found one at garage sale or pawn shop, i would buy it and then immediately resell it.. A first class trip to my native Portugal and a down payment on a mortgage would be preferable, if indeed $30k would be the selling point ;)
I don't about anyone else, but as a fan of the Beatles, Ringo, and anything Ludwig related, i have to say that these stories of $30k is quite simply put, insane..LOL !We're talking about a chunk of wood , some metal and plastic.. I mean , i understand the value and significance that finish, decade, and model entails but.. whoa !I would think that this snare drum shouldn't go for more than $1500 and that's a maximum amount that anybody should have to pay.. A friend of mine was selling a kit at $3k and that was a very decent price.. But a single drum at $33k ? ..That requires a trip to Nurse Ratchet's psych ward.. Lol ! If i ever found one at garage sale or pawn shop, i would buy it and then immediately resell it.. A first class trip to my native Portugal and a down payment on a mortgage would be preferable, if indeed $30k would be the selling point ;)
Heheh,
Coming from the vintage guitar world, whatever you do human71 do not look up what pickup rings for a '57,58,59 Les Paul Standard go for. We are talking about the little rectangle pieces of plastic that hold the pick ups on (hint: they go for the same as an average small/medium new car sells for.)
I honestly think, again from the perspective of someone from the vintage guitar world, that vintage drums are the deal of the century relatively speaking.
A golden era Les Paul (say 53-61, 68-early69), even with repairs, refins, and replaced parts can be 10k minimum.






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1970/71? Ludwig Downbeat in Blue Oyster Pearl
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I've seen and heard that 30K story from different folks. Some proof of that number would be nice to see............
I've had a couple of the "correct" Ringo snares, and was definitely never offered 30K. I sold one for 10K (I thought *that* was insane), and one for 8K. They weren't exactly easy to sell, either. I think there was one rabid buyer who got very worked up by the Ringo exhibit, and "had" to have the snare, and was throwing that offer around. I believe he ended up buying one of Gary's (of ringosbeatlekits.com). But based on my experience I would definitely not hold out for 30K if I had one.
still, 10 k is a lot of bread for a $81.00 SNARE BRAND NEW in 1962 looking at my 1962 cat all ,i mean all.. the snares were made Ringo style, very interesting..so this means all the snares pre 64 are really made different and therefore are more collectable then later models including the downbeats and pioneers a one badge over and .5 inch difference on the drums are real cool but now the whole world knows LOL
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp
once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
I don't really want to say who told me about the $30K deal (that he turned down) but it is someone I know and he does have a couple of these drums. Now perhaps there was some exaggeration involved or I misheard him when he was telling me about it but even so these are very sought after drums that can sell for a boatload of money. The market is likely very small...but also very serious about it.
Now I'd never pay that much for one myself but there are people out there to whom $30,000 is like $3000 (or $300) to the rest of us. If someone in that category really wanted one of these they might make such an offer without a second thought. I doubt there are too many collectors who fall into that category but it would only take one or two to make it happen.
A lot of these snares seem to head to Japan where they can get pretty fanatical about collecting this sort of stuff. I'm not sure what they might be willing to pay but they can be pretty certain that one isn't going to pop up at the garage sale down the street so they are more inclined to pay what they have to.
In my case I had been trying to get one I could afford for 20 years and was always a dollar short or a day late. I finally talked a friend into selling me one. I tried to get it at the lowest price possible but he knew how badly I wanted it and also how much they have sold for. We reached an agreement and once I had all the money together I picked up the drum. I may have paid too much but it really doesn't matter to me. It was all gig money I had saved up and if I hadn't been saving for that drum I would have blown it all piecemeal, as soon as I earned it, on whatever struck my fancy at MGR or GC or Ebay. I'm happy my quest has ended and I can scratch one off my bucket list.
Getting back to the original question, the typical OBP 60's Jazzfest (not the exact Ringo match type) in original condition will probably sell for between $2000 and $4000 depending on the drum, the day, who's looking at that time, and the sales venue. Crazy? Maybe. then again if you do find one at a garage sale it might be $25...I'd love for that to happen.
Canopus in Tokyo has been trying to sell a circa 1967 Oyblack pearl JF for $ 7000 for ages - no buyers .
There are a ton of Beatles cover bands in Japan - mostly older guys like myself - and they have the dough to fork over for these snares as well as kits . But 7 grand in the current dismal economy is a lot of scratch even for Japanese salarymen in their 40's and 50's .
1967 Ludwig Super Classic Oyster Blue Pearl
Yamaha Birch Custom Absolute Burgundy Spkl. bop
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I don't really want to say who told me about the $30K deal (that he turned down) but it is someone I know and he does have a couple of these drums. Now perhaps there was some exaggeration involved or I misheard him when he was telling me about it but even so these are very sought after drums that can sell for a boatload of money. The market is likely very small...but also very serious about it.Now I'd never pay that much for one myself but there are people out there to whom $30,000 is like $3000 (or $300) to the rest of us. If someone in that category really wanted one of these they might make such an offer without a second thought. I doubt there are too many collectors who fall into that category but it would only take one or two to make it happen.A lot of these snares seem to head to Japan where they can get pretty fanatical about collecting this sort of stuff. I'm not sure what they might be willing to pay but they can be pretty certain that one isn't going to pop up at the garage sale down the street so they are more inclined to pay what they have to.In my case I had been trying to get one I could afford for 20 years and was always a dollar short or a day late. I finally talked a friend into selling me one. I tried to get it at the lowest price possible but he knew how badly I wanted it and also how much they have sold for. We reached an agreement and once I had all the money together I picked up the drum. I may have paid too much but it really doesn't matter to me. It was all gig money I had saved up and if I hadn't been saving for that drum I would have blown it all piecemeal, as soon as I earned it, on whatever struck my fancy at MGR or GC or Ebay. I'm happy my quest has ended and I can scratch one off my bucket list.Getting back to the original question, the typical OBP 60's Jazzfest (not the exact Ringo match type) in original condition will probably sell for between $2000 and $4000 depending on the drum, the day, who's looking at that time, and the sales venue. Crazy? Maybe. then again if you do find one at a garage sale it might be $25...I'd love for that to happen.
KO, I know the person who said he got a 30K offer from overseas, he told me the story. He also told me he didn't sell the drum. Now we're hearing a 33K story........the legend grows, and grows, and.......
The 15K church drum (out of Milwaukee) from 10-15 years ago was completely fabricated by "P****** you-know-who", a guy who always has a great tale to tell.........too much urban folk lore in the drum world I think!
KO, I know the person who said he got a 30K offer from overseas, he told me the story. He also told me he didn't sell the drum. Now we're hearing a 33K story........the legend grows, and grows, and.......The 15K church drum (out of Milwaukee) from 10-15 years ago was completely fabricated by "P****** you-know-who", a guy who always has a great tale to tell.........too much urban folk lore in the drum world I think!
Like the fable of the $179 Citrus Mod Jazz Fest at the Rockford Guitar Center...Oh wait that's a brand new one. ;) LoLoLoLo
I don't know anything about the $33K drum other than what I've seen on forums so that may very well not be real (like the CM JF mentioned above) . As far as the $30K offer turned down I'm pretty sure the person in question could afford to turn that down. If you've got plenty of money (or enough to live comfortably anyway) then more money isn't as satisfactory as having something rare. Those people can afford to make such offers and/or turn them down. In my case I'd have to face reality and take the $30K if I had such a drum and such an offer was made for it. It's a decision I doubt I'll ever need to make though...if I had such a drum I might keep it a secret (honestly though I don't have one) just to avoid getting such offers.
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