Only Admins can see this message.
Data Transition still in progress. Some functionality may be limited until the process is complete.
Processing Attachment, Gallery - 137.28601%

Westend set (The Hague)

Loading...

Hi,

Recently I've bought a beautiful Westend set from 1960 in black diamond pearl. Westend was made in The Hague, The Netherlands. The drums are handmade and the shells are birch with re-rings. The sound is amazing!

Until 1960, many shells hadn't common inch sizes. There are for example bassdrums that measure 490x300 mm. The floor tom and snare of my Westend set have the common inch sizes, respectively 16" and 14". The small tom and bass drum have odd mm sizes. The diameter of the small tom measures 325 mm and the bassdrum measures 480 mm. The original calfskin heads are still on the set and they are a little bit worn. I'm looking for some new heads but with the odd mm sizes, it's difficult to find a head that will fit. Can anybody help me with this? I've read that REMO can make every kind of head. Does anybody have some experience with this? What is the price of a custom made head? Are there other companies/alternatives to find a head that will fit the small tom and bass drum?

Thanks in advance!

2 attachments
Posted on 10 years ago
#1
Loading...

PJC.....for the odd sized drums, the cheapest way out is round the size up to the next common size, get a hoop and head that size, then install washers under the lugs to increase the splay so that everything will fit. You should be able to get some MIJ hoops pretty cheap. I hope this helps.

Posted on 10 years ago
#2
Loading...

Ha PJC,

Congrats on your Westend-set.

Westends are well made drums and nowadays very much collectible in The Netherlands. They pop up every now and then.

If your on facebook, maybe the best thing is to join the DutchVintageDrumMeeting-group and post your set there.

The group consist of vintage drum enthusiasts from The Netherlands / Belgium, ranging from collectors, to starters, to professionals, to drumshops, but all with the love for vintage drums.

A few of the members still have a good stock of mm-size drumheads at reasonable prices. So, I think your "problem" might be solved quickly.

But be aware of jealous co-collectors once they spot your set ;-)

See you there!

Posted on 10 years ago
#3
Loading...

Congrats on such a nice kit. For the drumhead issue maybe you can check at st-drums.de. I hope this helps.

http://www.stdrums.de/shop/index.php?cat=c127_Metric-Heads--smooth-white.html

Posted on 10 years ago
#4
Loading...

Thanks everybody for the comments!

@ Retrosonic: I've heard about this method before, but I don't know.. I would like to leave the kit as original as possible..

@ Wouter: I'm already in that group. I've contacted already some people who maybe could help me, but they couldn't..

@ Neorich05: I saw that stdrums sells those metric heads but it's not quite the quality I'm looking for. (I know I'm maybe a little bit picky :-p). I've already orderd those heads from another company in Belgium, and the quality is really bad.. They don't let the drum sound the way as it supposed to be. So I'm really looking for good heads (e.g. the quality of Remo, Evans, ...)

Thanks everybody for the reactions!

Does anybody has experience with custom ordered heads at Remo?

Posted on 10 years ago
#5
Loading...

Nice kit for sure,I have seen a few others on the net and they all looked nice and well made.

It seems like BDP is one of the best aging wraps also.

Posted on 10 years ago
#6
Loading...

PJC: If you have to have custom made heads made, you will pay a decent chunk of change. The change over method I described is what alot of drummers did in the late 60s when metric sets were selling for alot less than new drums.

in any case, its a beautiful set of drums.

Posted on 10 years ago
#7
Loading...

Indeed, probably it would be very expensive to made a custom head. I'm waiting for an exact price from REMO... If it is to expensive, maybe I should try the method you described. Thanks Retrosonic!

Posted on 10 years ago
#8
Loading...

PJC: No problem!! I had the same issue with my 1957 Sonors. The heads were 12.5, the bass drum 21.3 INSANE!! The retrofit method works very well, and the nice thing is that washers are so cheap, you can build up the distance from the lug to the shell for very little $$$ and make the drum use a standard size head. You will thank yourself later, when you break a head at a gig, and you whip out a $10 Guitar Center head and fix it good as new.

Posted on 10 years ago
#9
  • Share
  • Report
Action Another action Something else here