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Vintage/older sabian model help !

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So in my search to find great sounding, versatile, used cymbals that i can leave at one of the pubs i gig at, i found this little guy, advertised as a "chinese" cymbal in one of my local pawn shops. I don't know too much about Sabian (i use Paiste) but the cymbal looks like an older/vintage HH 18" crash cymbal, but because the ink has faded, i can't tell if it's a medium thin, dark, thin, dark thin, etc. I have used Sabian in the past, and think they sound great. Now my questions for you Sabian guys are-- how old is this cymbal ? How many models/types of crashes in this line existed at that time ? I just checked on Youtube for some demos, and found a few modern, and some older ones, but i did not take a listen to the "Remastered" versions that came out a few years back, as i'm sure they won't sound the same. I love the dark, smokiness of these cymbals, and i think it would be a great cymbal to use for some cover gigs. Also, if it does end up being an HH crash, i may put an offer in for $90 and would like to know if you guys think it's fair ?

Any info is greatly appreciated !

Cheers,

Rob

https://www.comptant.com/p/musique-percussions/montreal/2828278/sabian-aax

Posted on 6 years ago
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$90 would be a Deal for a Sabian I’d say. 18” Zildjian would be around $180. Double that for an EAK. Same family and alloy.

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Posted on 6 years ago
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$90 would be a Deal for a Sabian I’d say. 18” Zildjian would be around $180. Double that for an EAK. Same family and alloy.

Cobalt Blue Yamaha Recording Custom 20b-22b-8-10-12-13-15-16f-18f
Red Ripple '70's Yamaha D-20 20b-12-14f
Piano Black Yamaha Recording Custom Be-Bop kit 18b-10-14f
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Posted on 6 years ago
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From J!m

$90 would be a Deal for a Sabian I’d say. 18” Zildjian would be around $180. Double that for an EAK. Same family and alloy.

Thanks Jim ! But do you have any idea of what type of Sabian it is ?

Posted on 6 years ago
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Looks to me like 90's hand hammered and could be my eyes , but looks on the heavy side.

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Posted on 6 years ago
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From human71

Thanks Jim ! But do you have any idea of what type of Sabian it is ?

No idea. My first cymbal was a Zildjian and my last one probably will be too.

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Posted on 6 years ago
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From funkypoodle

Looks to me like 90's hand hammered and could be my eyes , but looks on the heavy side.

Hey funkypoodle- What makes you think that it's a heavy cymbal ? I did a bit more research on the HH line from that time and you're right that it looks like it's a 90's cymbal, but during that time they made dark, medium, and medium thin weights. So even if it is a medium, which i assume would be the heaviest, that would still be ok, as i'd be using it for a ride/crash..

cheers,

Rob

Posted on 6 years ago
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From human71

Hey funkypoodle- What makes you think that it's a heavy cymbal ? I did a bit more research on the HH line from that time and you're right that it looks like it's a 90's cymbal, but during that time they made dark, medium, and medium thin weights. So even if it is a medium, which i assume would be the heaviest, that would still be ok, as i'd be using it for a ride/crash..cheers,Rob

Really hard to tell from a pic...my speculation was based around how the edge of the cymbal looks against the table, but it's just speculation. The hammering looks gorgeous on this one btw!

1964 Ludwig Champagne Super Classic
1970 Ludwig Blue Oyster Super Classic
1977 Rogers Big R Londoner 5 ebony
1972/1978 Rogers Powertone/Big R mix ebony
60's Ludwig Supersensitive
Pearl B4514 COB snare ( the SC snare)
Pearl Firecracker
PJL WMP maple snare
Odds & Sods

Sabians, Paistes, Zildjians, Zyns, UFIPs, MIJs etc
Item may be subject to change!
Posted on 6 years ago
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