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Vintage Stewart kit, more info wanted!

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Hi all,

I just picked up a vintage Stewart kit...at least that's what it claims to be. The kit is a 4 piece - 22x14 kick, 13(not sure of depth) up, 16x16 floor, 14x5 6 lug matching snare.

finish is black marine pearl (matches 1968 Pearl finish chart).

The floor tom and rack tom have no badges, although the kick and snare have Stewart badges - here's the confusion. The bass drum hardware and floor tom leg hardware both say "Pearl" in the classic 60s print...so what kind of kit is it?

Also, the interior of the bass drum has a re-enforcement hoop **in the centre**, and re-enforcement plates for the spurs, which penetrate directly into the shell. Fairly certain it's mahogany on the inside ply, but it's painted black - not sure if this is original sealing or some doofus restoration job. Will post again if I find a serial number.

Pics coming soon.

Posted on 10 years ago
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Sounds like a early 3ply 60s kit..

The blk paint..was done later..

Check the edges ....and with decent skins...

This kit will sound nice ..

P.s....spend the $$ on the snare (I.e. Hazy reso skin and nice snare wires, careful not to choke the wires, it can easily happen...

All made in japan...

Maybe a put together kit..?

Do both the toms have re rings as well.? If so, there 3ply as well...if not then maybe 6ply...

The wood is a cheaper mahogany ...

Bop iT / Til U Drop iT.

ROGER's
1964 Cleveland,.18/14/12 in WMP
1966 Cleveland, 20/14/12 O'natural.
Fullerton,...20/16/13/12 Silver Glass

WFL
1957 B/R Super Classics In WMP

Snares..
Wood & COB Powertones,
Wood & COB Dynasonics,
57 Jazz Festival

Zildjian avedis cymbals.
40s/60s era.
Posted on 10 years ago
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The edges on the toms and snare seem to be in decent shape, considering it's age and handling. The kick though...that's another story. the paint is actually flaking along the edge. Normally I rub in some Paraffin wax on the bearing edge as quick fix for imperfections, but with paint...it sounded fine tried it...could sound even better with a proper edge though.

Is it worth sealing the interiors? I've heard this is a thing, but is it worth it on cheap Japanese shells?

Posted on 10 years ago
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Sealing the interiors is a lot of wrk...(cpl hrs) worth..

Skins & tuning is yr biggest improvement...

I'd leave the edge on the bass drum alone...(try to find a used eq4) on the batter side..& no dampener inside the kick drum...

Also if the Flr tom isn't loud enough...replacement the rubber feet with Pearl's Boom feet...these will improv the sound by 30%...($15)

Best of luck...from Georgetown

Bop iT / Til U Drop iT.

ROGER's
1964 Cleveland,.18/14/12 in WMP
1966 Cleveland, 20/14/12 O'natural.
Fullerton,...20/16/13/12 Silver Glass

WFL
1957 B/R Super Classics In WMP

Snares..
Wood & COB Powertones,
Wood & COB Dynasonics,
57 Jazz Festival

Zildjian avedis cymbals.
40s/60s era.
Posted on 10 years ago
#4
Posted on 10 years ago
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Reinforcement plate - not sure if that is stock or not - but if you are familiar with these spurs, it is quite obvious why they are there, as these (little round barrel type) spurs are notorious for stressing the shell. It is even more so important to have reinforcement when you have thin shells - like you indeed have there (hence the reinforcement rings).

BTW - alot of MIJ shells have the type of construction that benefits from reinforcing the spurs (of this type) and I usually try to install some type of reinforcement on mine - usually in the form of a backing plate.

Strange how....I suppose it must have been some kind of trend to paint the interiors of BDs black. I suppose this was in the days when it was more common to run without a front head, and perhaps the black paint job was simply for aesthetics.

If I were you, I would not bother to do anything about this black paint - just leave it as is....and run a front reso head - and it will not been seen really. I see you are already up on good heads (Super Kick) and the fact that you have wood hoops is also very good for achieving good sound out of your kick. 20s used to suffer from a reputation for lacking lows - but with our improved head technology / general drum knowledge, they can produce better than some 22s/24s, etc.

In terms of what to do with sealing the shells and stuff like that. I have several of these MIJ drums and have not sealed any of them. I do not feel they need help with 'projection' and their condition seem to be ok these 40 years later. I make a point to keep the humidity between 40 and 60 percent and they keep just fine.

Good advice above in terms of tuning approach and so on. Egdes, heads, tuning. My specific advice is to tune to the shell and tune both heads the same - reaching maximum resonance, then muffle from there. I use EQ rings.

Enjoy....as it looks like you have one of the better shell type and good looking MIJs out there!

I had a great day! Instead of sleeping in and wasting the day, I got up at 8 and I had all my slacking done by noon!

2Timothy1:7
Posted on 10 years ago
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