Someone is OH SOOO GOING TO HELL over that tom mount on the bass drum.

1969.

thanks for the info ploughman.

ftr...the modifications were done by a previous owner. i had nothing to do with it. and unfortunately the rack tom has suffered from the same mod DOH

so...more questions... :)

what distinguishing features make it a 1969? what type of hardware did the bass drum originally come with and i imagine it would have been center mounted? how come there are no provisions present for a bottom hoop on the rack tom? do the sizes sound right?

Yeah, that mount is a disaster. I love the wrap color. The small tom is a concert tom which was fairly common option for that era. The sizes are definitely "rock" sizes. I can understand why you say the kit kicks ass. Would love to have a wail at it myself.

I date them to 1969 due to the badge. Those paper tags are the early fullerton tags used shortly after Rogers Drums USA was moved from Covington Ohio, and the Warehousing facility moved from Dayton Ohio, to Fullerton California by CBS. Secondly, are the floor tom mounts. About 1970 they changed to a cast type. Yours are the machined versions.

If your bolt on bass drum mount is in the same location as the original Rogers mount, then it most likely had the swivomatic double tom post receiver mount on the bass drum. As for the bottom of the rack tom, if you can get someone with a little skill and the right tools, you can fix that.

thanks again so much for the info ploughman & drum dad.

it seems as though the pearl drum mount was mounted in the same location as the original mounts because there are no other holes or provisions on the drum for mounts. ideally, i would like to eventually convert it back to the center mounted swivomatic double (or single?) tom post. i would have to take that new mount off and see how much bodgery was performed to see if it could be done tho. i know some holes were cut, so i would imagine that it all depends on how the swivomatic mounts to the drum & how it would mask the previous owners "not so handy work"! likewise for the rack tom!

if the rack tom originally came with no bottom hoop, i dont see a reason to modify it & put one on? did concert toms (like this one) usually come with only a top hoop? i'd like to not mess up this set any more than it allready has been. pro's & cons of adding a bottom hoop?

thanks for the info on the floor tom. i'll need to source out a leg/mount because it's missing one!! can anyone recommend where i should look (ebay, on this forum, anywhere else)?

i also seem to remember reading somewhere that an 18" floor tom is a little rare. is this true?

thanks again for all the help & info aswell as your patience in fielding all my questions. i really appreciate it!!

this is a great site!!!!Cool1

I suggest........... a good stainless steel plate, polished, formed to the curve of the bass drum, and exactly fitting the aftermarket position. I also suggest a second plate below inside the shell that will give adequate playing reinforcement to the shell since the Pearl mount is such an abortion to begin with. then carefully mark the plate on top, and have both plates drilled for the fasteners for the swivo mount, as well as the center hole. The swivo plate alone probably wont cover all that nastiness.

Install the plates, plugging the unneeded holes, and the swivo mount in its right position. It should serve well for many years.

18 inch floor toms began to be much more common in the Fullerton Era. And very common in the Big R time period.

[COLOR="Purple"]I am still rolling on the floor over this one.....Falling Do[/COLOR]

I have reconditioned two Rogers bass drums with the "Pearl Disease". I can't help wondering if it's better to abandon the bass drum mount altogether.

[COLOR="DarkRed"]C'mon, Trout. That's ALL you are gonna say ? ;)

How did you do it ? Did you patch the holes in both wrap and shell, and reinstall the original swivo mounts, etc ????[/COLOR]