Drumaholic,Wow!! a really good sounding cymbal, a ton of sounds you can create with this cymbal. what size sticks are you using?

Vic Firth AJ6.

pretty good.

lacking in the bell region.

but thanks for sharing!

True about the bell. But a lot of old stamps are that way. Much more than the later eras. I think in some cases its because the cymbal is too thin for the bell to really sing out like we want it to.

This is compounded by the fact that the oldest of the old stamps like this one usually have no "taper". That means the thickness at the bell is the same as at the edge. That will make for a lackluster bell every time. But on the other hand such a cymbal has subdued overtones, and that makes the overall sound quieter, breathier, and almost halfway to be a flat-ride in sound quality, but not quite.

Nice one. I like the tick/click and the crash.

I think you could categorize this cymbal as paper-thin. And yet when I play it there's no wobble to it. It's tight and shimmers a little only when you crash it. Otherwise it retains its stiffness. Now if this was a Bosphorous, a Mehmet, a Diril, or any other modern era Turkish made cymbal, it would be flapping around like a butterfly in the breeze. Why?

They tried to answer this particular question over at Cymbalholic. Seven pages later, after lots of guesses and even a few technical hypotheses, still nobody had an answer. I could have answered this one completely with just two simple words:

"THE SECRET"

Case closed.

I'm glad you addressed the bell and taper or lack there of, as to the hollow sound the bells on these old cymbals produce, I've owned enough of these to know how they sound, I actually like that sound, no its not a more modern or modern bell sound, but It's authentic!

Same with my 1505 gm 20" old stamp..

Stiff with little to no wobble..

[IMG]http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm78/templsounds/1505gmoldKcymbal-2011resize.jpg[/IMG]

http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=76929285.wma

Nice. Looks like a IIIa.