A little background - I'm a multi instrumentalist songwriter with a studio, who has been focusing on drums as of the last few months. I've bought the stick control book, joined a band, and really been working at it. I've improved into 100X the drummer I was a few months ago. But now my cymbals are starting to bother me a bit...
I use more traditional miking techniques (usually glyn johns style, with snare and kick mics added in - 2xu87 clones I built along with an AKG D19 on snare and another LDC on kick, sometimes with a ribbon in the room depending on the track) and have a 1961 20x14, 13x9, 16x16 Ludwig kit, with a 60's 18" crash (1650 grams) a K constantinople 20" ride (2400 grams), and 14 hats (1300 and 850). I just bought and received (both 60's zildjian Avedis) 20 inch 2000 gram ride, and also a 18 1425 gram crash.
My K sounds really nice - BUT it has more ping than I would like, and needs more volume to get to a wash sound than I typically play in the studio. I've noticed that live the ping/wash situation helps me have enough headroom on the cymbal to play dynamically.
This is why I bought the 400g lighter ride. This lighter ride washes great - but has little to no stick definition and is basically too far in the other direction. I did use this one on a loud rock song and it worked great as a very washy ride (https://soundcloud.com/rockinrob86/live-for-the-now)
- so maybe that's what this one's for, and it will never be a "main" ride? I don't usually play loud rock though. My other stuff is typically more in the beatles/neil young/60's-70's sound territory.
I have other recordings here https://soundcloud.com/rockinrob86 where the drummer I've been playing with is using his stuff. I think he uses dream cymbals, and they sound good, but I would like to stick with 50's/60's zildjians. All the records I want to sound like were made in that era with those cymbals.
All of this is to say, is there any way to learn how to predict what a cymbal will sound like other than buying a bunch of cymbals? I know the bell size, the curve/radius or lack therof, weight, etc all change the sound, but I haven't seen a definitive description of how these affect cymbal tone.
I do not want a big collection of cymbals. I would like to have something like ringo's setup - two or three that are versatile and work reliably on a range of material.