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Vintage Arbiter crash

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Have mentioned this in a different thread on a different post, but am eager to find out more, so would appreciate any help.

I wasn't aware Arbiter did cymbals, but this is a vintage 18", quite thin, possibly a crash/ride. It's like most old cymbals, with just the arbiter stamp on it.

Any ideas of age, value etc?

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Posted on 16 years ago
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It's likely a stencil brand made by somebody else, probably a Premier Zyn, for Arbiter. Nobody knows what these are so there's no real demand for such a cymbal. Therefore its value would be essentially nill.

Posted on 16 years ago
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Sorry Brody, Drumaholic is probably right. Most likely is a Zyn or maybe a Krut.

Not really worth anything

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Posted on 16 years ago
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That's cool, I can sell it cheap and put the money towards my Ajax snare fund!

Tama Superstar, 22, 22, 16, 14, 13 Desert Burst
Premier Genista, 22, 16, 13, 12 Black Lacquer
Premier Genista, 20, 14, 10 and snare Black Lacquer
Premier Resonator 22, 16, 14, 13 poly creme/black
Zickos 22, 16, 14, 13, clear acrylic and snare
Posted on 16 years ago
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Do you have an image of the die stamp? For a little while, Arbiter Cymbals were manufactured by Paiste.

Posted on 16 years ago
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From ivmike

Do you have an image of the die stamp? For a little while, Arbiter Cymbals were manufactured by Paiste.

There was an Arbiter version of the Formula 602 which is pretty rare but it is still stamped Formula 602 also. Arbiter was a dealer for Paiste and Zildjian in the 1960's but to my knowledge they did not make their branded cymbals.

Posted on 16 years ago
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I doubt I could get my camera to pick up the stamp, but it definately says Arbiter on it. It's at rehersal space now, so I'll take a look when I go up today, and try to get a shot - takin my camera up anyway. For the record, it sounds great!

Tama Superstar, 22, 22, 16, 14, 13 Desert Burst
Premier Genista, 22, 16, 13, 12 Black Lacquer
Premier Genista, 20, 14, 10 and snare Black Lacquer
Premier Resonator 22, 16, 14, 13 poly creme/black
Zickos 22, 16, 14, 13, clear acrylic and snare
Posted on 16 years ago
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Completely forgot to take the pic! will do it next time.

Tama Superstar, 22, 22, 16, 14, 13 Desert Burst
Premier Genista, 22, 16, 13, 12 Black Lacquer
Premier Genista, 20, 14, 10 and snare Black Lacquer
Premier Resonator 22, 16, 14, 13 poly creme/black
Zickos 22, 16, 14, 13, clear acrylic and snare
Posted on 16 years ago
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Yes its definitely is a UFIP stencil brand. I have it pointed out here on the UFIP stencil brand Rosetta Stone.

[img]http://photos.imageevent.com/drumaholic/constantinople/ufipstencil%202.jpg[/img]

Posted on 15 years ago
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[COLOR="DarkRed"]If it's a Italian-UFIP-produced cymbal from pre-80's or so...it's probably pretty dang good....never to be confused with Krut or such.

IMHO, the stencil-brand Italians are the sleepers of all cymbals.

Nobody recognizes what they are...but they are usually B20, handmade, almost always very well-made.... and good-sounding.

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Posted on 15 years ago
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