Heavy Brass snare, 13 1/2" X 6 1/2". Single tension rods have unusual arrangement of "fitting" into receivers welded onto hoop. Top part of rod is hex shaped, bottom of rods have removable tensioner handles. Bottom hoop is drilled to receive gut wires. Note that the strainer & butt bracket are later additions (they are also unidentified. While the 3 point strainer looks like a very early Ludwig & Ludwig throw, it does not attach to the shell like any of the 3 L&L versions ). There are 2 extra holes above the strainer that may have held the original throw (It would be nice to see what the original throw was like, or know if it was just a simple tightening bolt). This does not seem like an American drum, & struck me as European.
Unknown Heavy Brass Snare
This does not seem like an American drum, & struck me as European.[/QUOTE]
Is, this your drum or one for sale somewhere? If it is , yours and you have access to a machinist , put an S.A.E. and Metric thread guage on the t-rods---should tell you it's origin. If it is neither, then it is likely one of the several British threads . unlikely for your average machinist to have thread guages for any of those.
I think I seen that bottom hoop on this site before !! The drill holes were all over the place like those too !! I too have to work through bong residue of the past with my memory !!
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Calfskin, Thanks, you always have good information & ideas. The rods are 1/4" thick & 20 threads per inch. They are American standard. ...Still leaves me w/ an unknown American maker. I've had this drum for a decade, & have never come across this hoop & rod arrangement, or a drilled bottom hoop. This was probably made by one of the dozen obscure drum makers of earlier times, Bower, Barry, Wilson, Dodge, Nokes & Nicolai, ...etc. etc.,
Hey tdennis,
Cool drum! Never seen one quite like it. Doesn't look like any of the early Boston makers to me though. That throw-off is a Duplex I think. Maybe they made the drum? Are there extra holes from another throw-off? Maybe that is a later part. Strange looking instrument over all. Could it be German? Just a wild guess.
-Lee
There are probably so many small makers from the past, it would boggle the mind. I came across a drum , a while ago----10, single point tube lugs, nickel on brass shell, oak hoops,large 5/16" square headed t-rods, original cord snares----just needs heads.Really well made playable drum. The drum was a complete mystery to me----no clues at all but inside I find a paper label. Williams -Made in Toronto. I had never heard of them until then. There haven't been too many Canadian made drums.
Open the drum up, look all around inside the shell, check the hoops, any markings of any kind? Possibly a patent date on the throw?
Calfskin, not sure if you ran across this already: http://www.biographi.ca/009004-119.01-e.php?&id_nbr=7146&&PHPSESSID=ychzfqkvzape
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